Chris Boonzaier Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 When I see folks laying out EUR7000 for a knights cross which was awarded 7300 times... I think on one hand that Imperial is Undervalued... and thank god for that! Or Knights Crosses are simply overvalued...Whatever... Lets see what you have that is rarer than a Knights Cross... and by how much!Bavarian Gold Bravery medal.... 7 times rarer than a Knights Cross of the Iron Cross... Many of our "normal" awards, even simple ones, are rarer than a RK... Anyone know how many Lübeck Crosses were awarded?
jaba1914 Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 land pilot badge. At the moment less then 250 awards known. They were more but not many. RegardsAlex
Paul R Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 I bet that these still go for 1000s a piece though... What is the difference between a land pilot badge and a regular pilot's badge? Is it in the role?
Chris Boonzaier Posted September 2, 2015 Author Posted September 2, 2015 Hi Paul,They are a bit more expensive, that is true, but these are scarce as well and not expensive...Small Baden Golden Verdienst Medal on a war ribbon, about 400 awards and the Würt. Service cross with swords, about 2300 award... The latter has 3 times less awards than a Knights cross, but will only set you back about EUR250 for a loose one...
kasle Posted September 2, 2015 Posted September 2, 2015 1x scarcer than Knight´s Cross - Württemberg Firefighter´s badge for 25 years of service, 1st type (1885 - 1912). Only 4.000 were awarded. Price is under 100 € even for cased piece.
Chris Boonzaier Posted September 2, 2015 Author Posted September 2, 2015 That is a beautiful piece indeed!!! Modern medal makers could learn a thing or two looking at an award like that!
paul wood Posted September 2, 2015 Posted September 2, 2015 Beautiful piece, now I Know what to start collecting when my Indian pieces dry up.Paul
jaba1914 Posted September 2, 2015 Posted September 2, 2015 I bet that these still go for 1000s a piece though... What is the difference between a land pilot badge and a regular pilot's badge? Is it in the role?The land pilot badge is the navy version of the imperial german pilot badge although the training was on different units. The navy have their own training facilities but some of the pilots were trained on army training units.The number of navy land pilots are less than army pilots.RegardsAlex
Beau Newman Posted September 3, 2015 Posted September 3, 2015 The Wurttemberg Wilhelm's Cross with Crown and Swords - 108 awards according to Kleitman. Look out for fakes.
Wild Card Posted September 3, 2015 Posted September 3, 2015 Chris Boonzaier, Thank you for raising an important point. I do believe, though, that the value of rarity has slowly become more appreciated among Imperial collectors in recent years. Related to this is the ability to often identify to whom a medal bar was awarded; which opens the door to enhancing it’s significance. Also, in some cases - for instance the Hannover and Braunschweig Waterloo and Baden Carl Friedrich Military Merit Order medals - the medals are actually named to the recipient, again enhancing it’s significance. Thank you again for raising this important point. Wild Card
Stuka f Posted September 3, 2015 Posted September 3, 2015 I always tought that if German medals (especialy TR periode!)would have been named to the recipient, most would have been even more expensive as they are today.
Chris Boonzaier Posted September 3, 2015 Author Posted September 3, 2015 Not very rare, but only about 2000 awarded? 3 times rarer than a knights cross?
Eric Stahlhut Posted September 3, 2015 Posted September 3, 2015 sachsen coburg and gotha's carl eduard war cross--awarded 97 times
ccj Posted September 4, 2015 Posted September 4, 2015 sachsen coburg and gotha's carl eduard war cross--awarded 97 timesvery nice, I've been wanting one for years
chuck Posted October 11, 2015 Posted October 11, 2015 A little beat up...my Prussian Crown Order 3rd class with swords awarded 144 times according to O'Conner between 1885 and 1918.chuck
dedehansen Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 Saxonian kingdom remembrance cross for voluntary care of the sick 1870 / 71 with miniature. ca. 1.080 awarded Kind regards Andreas
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