My 1st medal bar in 10+ years !!

[scottplen]

Well I pulled the trigger !!! more than I wanted to spend for a restart of a collection but I figured it was a one not to pass up and it was from a trusted forum member !

Baden lion Order and non com my two favorite thinks !!!  And no Hindenburg cross !!

 

[Deruelle]

What a beauty

[ccj]

Very nice

[Chris Boonzaier]

Yesssssss!!! Nice find! Is it not terrible that they are always so much better without an Ehrenkreuz! :-)

[ccj]

I wonder what the original owner was in the military. I suppose a captain, major grade or equivalent non combatant. 

Its a beauty 

[Komtur]

Nice one!

He was most likely a kind of civil servant or/and active in public welfare.

[scottplen]

Does anyone have the numbers of WWI  OZL 2nd class knights with OLCs ? I know with swords and  OLCs about 1450

But cant find numbers W/O swords ? Could he have been in  some medical field ?

Edited October 8, 2016 by scottplen

[Komtur]

Numbers awarded 1866 to 1918: 1.452. I can´t find a reason, why the order should be awarded after 1914.

The non combattant ribbon of the Iron Cross in World War 1 is typical for the person I mentioned above. It is not impossible, that civil doctors or kind of male nurses got on. But they represent only a small part of the people, awarded with this decoration. Therfore it is for me unlikely, that somebody from the medical field was the owner of this bar, even if it can´t be excluded.

Edited October 8, 2016 by Komtur

[scottplen]

So the Baden Order most likely pre war ? Would it be a military award or to  a  civilian ? Could it have been Police or medical or any type of civil servant ? also possible Army ?

so pretty uncommon awarded after 1914

[Komtur]

58 minutes ago, scottplen said:

So the Baden Order most likely pre war ? Would it be a military award or to  a  civilian ? Could it have been Police or medical or any type of civil servant ? also possible Army ?

so pretty uncommon awarded after 1914

1. It is awarded for service in the war zone with swords. For any other merit before AND after 1914 without swords. So I (!) could not say, if it is handed out before or after 1914. With detailed pictures of the order some Baden specialists could give an indication when it was made by the maker or style. If the golden parts are gilded silver (as it seems for the oak leaves), the order should be made after 1910.

2. So it could have been given to a miliary person AND a civil one.

3. Civil servant is the most likely owner, Police and any medic is possible, but unlikely.

4. See 1. and 2.

5. Not uncommon, but most of the awarded decorations after 1914 were given with swords.

Edited October 8, 2016 by Komtur

[Signalcorps45]

Scott,

This is an awesome bar.

Dean

 

[scottplen]

Any chance to ID this one ? 

[Komtur]

Unfortunately not.

[scottplen]

I figured a long shot !  Still I love this bar ! Can't be many like it !

[rujab]

Wunderbar, Gratulation.

[Streptile]

Great bar, congratulations.

[ixhs]

Did i see it some time later at Ebay.com?

 

[scottplen]

For a bit was out off work and need some cash ! But ended up keeping it !

[Dansson]

Beautiful bar!

[ostprussenmann_new]

On 10/7/2016 at 17:54, scottplen said:

Well I pulled the trigger !!! more than I wanted to spend for a restart of a collection but I figured it was a one not to pass up and it was from a trusted forum member !

Baden lion Order and non com my two favorite thinks !!!  And no Hindenburg cross !!

 

Always love Baden anything