drspeck Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Dear all, I was fortunate enough to be able to pick up a group of ribbon bars at Zeige’s latest auction. I received them recently. I will be posting some of these, starting with some of the (pre-)ww1 bars. Let me know If better images are desired. First up is this nice pre-ww1 trapezoid ribbon bar. I believe the last four ribbons are: - Russia Order of Saint Stanislaus - Greece Order of the Redeemer - Ottoman Order of the Osmanie - Ottoman commemorative medal to the 1889 visit of the Kaiser to Constantinople Any thoughts on this bar? All feedback much appreciated. Regards. Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurentius Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Dear Drspeck The bar looks original to me, and the double RAO is also not a problem IMO. I think it's a 4th class cross with crown and a 3rd class cross with Schleife. Lovely pre-WW1 medalbar. Kind regards, Laurentius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drspeck Posted April 15, 2018 Author Share Posted April 15, 2018 Dear Drspeck The bar looks original to me, and the double RAO is also not a problem IMO. I think it's a 4th class cross with crown and a 3rd class cross with Schleife. Lovely pre-WW1 medalbar. Kind regards, Laurentius Thnx. Could it be Naval, 1907-1914 period? I have the pre-war Rangliste somewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webr55 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 (edited) This is a pre-1914 Navy bar. I thought it would be easy to identify, but it was a bit tricky, because no one really fits 100%. Still, I believe this bar belonged to Dr. Walther Uthemann (1863-1944), in 1914 Marine-Generalarzt, later Marinegeneraloberstabsarzt (equivalent to Admiral). He had the 1889 visit to Constantinople medal in silver, this is confirmed from other sources. His awards fit his ranklist entry from 1914 IF we assume that - he chose to wear his Greek Redeemer and his Russian Stanislaus (of which he both had Commander grades) on his bar rather than from his neck (we have other examples of this), and - his outfitter mixed up Osmanie and Medjdie ribbons (Uthemann had the latter one). Regards Chris Edited April 15, 2018 by webr55 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drspeck Posted April 15, 2018 Author Share Posted April 15, 2018 (edited) Thnx. Thats so very cool I can just picture it in front of me "What was that ribbon again? Red green or green red?" Does anyone have more biographical information on Uthemann? Edited April 15, 2018 by drspeck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.F. Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Does anyone have more biographical information on Uthemann? From the 1930 Honour Ranklist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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drspeck Posted April 16, 2018 Author Share Posted April 16, 2018 Muchas muchas Gracias Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webr55 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Also, see this thread: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drspeck Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 many thanks for all the replies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 I have not crawled the auction sites in years. That must have been some lot of bars! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drspeck Posted May 10, 2018 Author Share Posted May 10, 2018 3 hours ago, Stogieman said: I have not crawled the auction sites in years. That must have been some lot of bars! For those who like to know, this was the entire lot of bars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriegsmarine Admiral Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 Hello. Does someone have the full list of Uthemann's decorations? Preferably not written in abbreviations Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccj Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 I’ve like to have the bottom bar. I would thin it identifiable to its owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VtwinVince Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Some really nice ones in that group. I have a Trapetz with the RAO3 mit Schleife and the RAO4mdK, always a cool combination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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