Stogieman Posted May 29, 2006 Share Posted May 29, 2006 Why is this medal bar special? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted May 29, 2006 Author Share Posted May 29, 2006 Reverse: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notned Posted May 29, 2006 Share Posted May 29, 2006 Ummm, well..its a Non com bar with a Wurttemberg combattants cross? annnnnD! its slightly vaulted??OR is it special because you know who it belonged to??Hmmm, a toughie.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Hunter Posted May 29, 2006 Share Posted May 29, 2006 ...and a most unusual ribbon on the Austrian commemorative??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted May 30, 2006 Author Share Posted May 30, 2006 Bob is close........ But no cigar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notned Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 Well....i did know that the Hungarian medal was on a rarely seen non com ribbon...but me thought there was something else....Anyone else?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 Its a four full noncom bar.-all for WW1 service.Talk about a hattrick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Murphy Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 All of the above. Plus, because the pin on the back is reversed. Say for a man who had lost an arm or an uhlan who wore it to the right.Dan Murphy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted May 30, 2006 Author Share Posted May 30, 2006 Yes, a very tasty and real NC bar, across the board. Not just a NC ribbon on the Hungarian WW1 commemorative, but the correct NC medal to match. Quite unusual. Now, part 2:Why is the medal a NC version? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notned Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 Because there is no swords....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudio Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 (edited) No swords on the medal itself depicted... very rare indeed... I was about to post the answer, but you were too quick to give it away! Very nice... already the combination with a real NC IC 2nd class (only 13'000 awarded in WWI) is quite scarce... almost like a RK 1939 (7800 awarded).But I guess such a Hungarian WWI commemoration medal for Non Combattant is much less sexy than other much more prised WWII German badges, which are more common but command an higher price.Ciao,ClaudioSee below to better illustrate the difference between a combattant medal from a non-combattant medal. Edited May 30, 2006 by Claudio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David M Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 That really is an amazing bar! Do you have the data of who it belonged to....or should that be whom....David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudio Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 You can also see the difference on the back: the non-combattant does only have the dates inscription and the combattant one has a steel helmet on it.Very nice... I saw once a single court mounted Hungarian non-combattant WWI commemorative medal with the label Godet on the back and document to go with on Ebay. Now I regret not to have bidden more at that time.Ciao,Claudio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted May 30, 2006 Author Share Posted May 30, 2006 Claudio is correct. Very different obverse and reverse. I'll post a couple of bigger photos shortly. Notice that it is paired with the Honor Cross, No swords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Hunter Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 (edited) I don't smoke 'em anyway, Stogie, but the bar is too cool! Edited May 30, 2006 by Bob Hunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted May 30, 2006 Author Share Posted May 30, 2006 Some additional views, Obverse: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted May 30, 2006 Author Share Posted May 30, 2006 This one has a very interesting silver patina to it. Reverse: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaW Posted May 31, 2006 Share Posted May 31, 2006 (edited) Hello,I am very pleased to hear that you like your new Medal bar regards from GermanyMichael Edited May 31, 2006 by MichaW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JensF. Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 It is rare to find the hungarian NC medal on a medal-bar. I think the most veterans who were non-combatants were not interested to apply for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudius Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 Doesn't that Wurtemburg have swords for a combantant? Or am I missing something. (maybe it didn't come without swords?) That's really neat about the Hungarian non-combattant medal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Krause Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 W?rttemberg is a bit odd.The Wilhelms-cross was in general a NON-COM award. It came with swords top military guys without frontline service and without swords to civilians and some kind of military Beamten.Best regardsDaniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudio Posted June 3, 2006 Share Posted June 3, 2006 Hi guys!I didn't even notice but my brothers had these also in his miniature collection.Ciao,ClaudioFront: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudio Posted June 3, 2006 Share Posted June 3, 2006 reverse: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paddywhack Posted June 4, 2006 Share Posted June 4, 2006 how hard are the non com hungarian medals to find? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev in Deva Posted June 4, 2006 Share Posted June 4, 2006 how hard are the non com hungarian medals to find?Hallo Paddywhack They can be found on German Ebay, but, be careful as there are fake ones being offered in Zink with a silver paint-job, beware of the bubbly / blotched apperance, and repro ribbonsI will post some pictures of some in my possesion later tomorrow, too late tonight Kevin in Deva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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