What's so special about this medal bar?

[Stogieman]

Why is this medal bar special?

[Stogieman]

Reverse:

[notned]

Ummm, well..its a Non com bar with a Wurttemberg combattants cross?

annnnnD! its slightly vaulted??

OR is it special because you know who it belonged to??

Hmmm, a toughie....

[Bob Hunter]

...and a most unusual ribbon on the Austrian commemorative???

[Stogieman]

Bob is close........ But no cigar

[notned]

Well....i did know that the Hungarian medal was on a rarely seen non com ribbon...but me thought there was something else....

Anyone else??

[Ulsterman]

Its a four full noncom bar.-all for WW1 service.

Talk about a hattrick!

[Daniel Murphy]

All of the above. Plus, because the pin on the back is reversed. Say for a man who had lost an arm or an uhlan who wore it to the right.

Dan Murphy

[Stogieman]

Yes, a very tasty and real NC bar, across the board. Not just a NC ribbon on the Hungarian WW1 commemorative, but the correct NC medal to match. Quite unusual. Now, part 2:

Why is the medal a NC version?

[notned]

Because there is no swords....?

[Claudio]

No swords on the medal itself depicted... very rare indeed... I was about to post the answer, but you were too quick to give it away!

Very nice... already the combination with a real NC IC 2nd class (only 13'000 awarded in WWI) is quite scarce... almost like a RK 1939 (7800 awarded).

But I guess such a Hungarian WWI commemoration medal for Non Combattant is much less sexy than other much more prised WWII German badges, which are more common but command an higher price.

Ciao,

Claudio

See below to better illustrate the difference between a combattant medal from a non-combattant medal.

Edited May 30, 2006 by Claudio

[David M]

That really is an amazing bar! Do you have the data of who it belonged to....or should that be whom....

David

[Claudio]

You can also see the difference on the back: the non-combattant does only have the dates inscription and the combattant one has a steel helmet on it.

Very nice... I saw once a single court mounted Hungarian non-combattant WWI commemorative medal with the label Godet on the back and document to go with on Ebay. Now I regret not to have bidden more at that time.

Ciao,

Claudio

[Stogieman]

Claudio is correct. Very different obverse and reverse. I'll post a couple of bigger photos shortly. Notice that it is paired with the Honor Cross, No swords.

[Bob Hunter]

I don't smoke 'em anyway, Stogie, but the bar is too cool!

Edited May 30, 2006 by Bob Hunter

[Stogieman]

Some additional views, Obverse:

[Stogieman]

This one has a very interesting silver patina to it. Reverse:

[MichaW]

Hello,

I am very pleased to hear that you like your new Medal bar

regards from Germany

Michael

Edited May 31, 2006 by MichaW

[JensF.]

It is rare to find the hungarian NC medal on a medal-bar. I think the most veterans who were non-combatants were not interested to apply for it.

[Claudius]

Doesn't that Wurtemburg have swords for a combantant? Or am I missing something. (maybe it didn't come without swords?)

That's really neat about the Hungarian non-combattant medal.

[Daniel Krause]

W?rttemberg is a bit odd.

The Wilhelms-cross was in general a NON-COM award. It came with swords top military guys without frontline service and without swords to civilians and some kind of military Beamten.

Best regards

Daniel

[Claudio]

Hi guys!

I didn't even notice but my brothers had these also in his miniature collection.

Ciao,

Claudio

Front:

[Claudio]

reverse:

[paddywhack]

how hard are the non com hungarian medals to find?

[Kev in Deva]

how hard are the non com hungarian medals to find?

Hallo Paddywhack

They can be found on German Ebay, but, be careful as there are fake ones being offered in Zink with a silver paint-job, beware of the bubbly / blotched apperance, and repro ribbonsI will post some pictures of some in my possesion later tomorrow, too late tonight

Kevin in Deva