Brunswick Time to post Braunschweig!

[Wild Card]

Gentlemen,

This picture is utterly fantastic! For me, it answers two important questions.

First, it confirms the fact that with this order, when a higher degree was awarded, if the lower degree had swords, it was still worn along with the higher degree which would have the swords on ring... For clearer pictures of the two awards on this bar, refer to post #45 and the example below. This cross is from the period of 1908-1913. Therefore some details will differ from the one in the picture.

With regard to higher degrees and swords, I was surprised when no one noted or questioned the silver swords on the officer?s cross in post #61. The reason that this point was emphasized is that, as the result of extensive research by the late Eric Ludvigsen, it was determined that these crosses when awarded for military merit were to have gold swords. However, if the recipient had the swords in a lower degree, the swords on the officer?s cross should be silver. Because this information is not documented, I welcome any discussion on this point.

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Returning to Komtur?s picture and my second (now answered) question. Rick?s speculation is correct; Major Gutkind is indeed wearing a Brunswick 1833-86 officer?s 25 year long service cross; and the picture confirms the fact that ?se should be 90 degrees to the plane of the cross. Examples with the ?se at the plane of the cross are around. I would say that, for me at least, this picture answers the question as to the position of the ?se.

[Wild Card]

Reverse.

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One last point. As you can see

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the 1833-86 1st class Landwehr decoration is quite similar.

[Komtur]

the 1833-86 1st class Landwehr decoration is quite similar.

... and this last one Gutkind must be wearing, because he is a Major der Landwehr and Kommerzienrat.

On the picture he is still Hauptmann, but he signs as Major on the back.

Kind Regards, Komtur.

Edited December 9, 2007 by Komtur

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... and this last one Gutkind must be wearing, because he is a Major der Landwehr and Kommerzienrat.

On the picture he is still Hauptmann, but he signs as Major on the back.

Kind Regards, Komtur.

Thank you for pointing this out. I stand corrected.

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[webr55]

Anyone seen this nice picture:

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[webr55]

Close-up:

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[webr55]

#2:

 

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[webr55]

And the writing on the back:

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[webr55]

DOA 1908/09 lists only a Hugo du Roi, but also from Braunschweig, factory owner, with BrnL3b and others.

[Deruelle]

NIce photo with great bar. A brave man from Braunschweig

Christophe

[webr55]

The 1903 RL lists a Lt dR du Roi in FAR 46, in Braunschweig.

[Guest Rick Research]

The reserve artillery officer must be him. Went aD as Oberlt dR FAR 46 1912/13 with only an LD1.

[Bryan]

Thanks for this nice thread! I like Braunschweiger items!

[Komtur]

Generalmajor Paul Hoeckner

[Komtur]

... besides his shiny boots may be his Henry the Lion and his entry in the Rangliste 1904 of interest:

[epsomgreen]

Hello:

I'm new to the GMIC forum, but my interest in items Braunschweig is long standing. Here are my contributions to this spectacular thread.

Best regards,

Charles

The hallmark on the Grand Cross is a star above the letter "S," presumably for the Hof-Juwelier Siebrecht.

Star to the Grand Cross:

Hallmarks: Hermann J?rgens

Knight's Cross, 1st Class

Hallmarks: interlaced "HJ" for Hermann J?rgens, crescent moon, crown, and 900

Star to the Knight's Cross

Hallmark: H. Rose Schwerin

[epsomgreen]

Continued:

Knight's Cross 2nd Class

Silver proofs on the suspension ring, the maker is again J?rgens:

Group portrait

Finally,

[Noor]

OOhhh my eyes

Thanks for sheering. They look great items and very very nice collection! I have not seen any Braunschweig order on sale yet... now I know why and where they all are going

[Christian J]

Impressive!

[Mike Huxley]

First of all, Welcome to GMIC Charles great to see you here Secondly, that is one killer collection of Braunschweig House Orders that you have there Chas. As yet I've not been fortunate in finding any of these to add to my collection but I live in hope.

Mike

[Scott Powell]

thank you for posting such BEAUTFUL awards epsomgreen, i am in awe

[scottplen]

heres mine on noncombat ribbon

Edited April 17, 2008 by scottplen