Otto Von Bismarck Awards

[Biber]

Did I spy peace class (arts/sci) PLM in post 15? How does that figure?

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Edited June 4, 2007 by Biber

[Biber]

Nevermind.

http://www.pourlemerite.org/index.html Lists him as "Staatsmann".

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[Alex K]

Hi all, interesting thread (For me) does anyone perhaps have a higher resolution (Readable) copy of this?

regards

Alex K

On 03/06/2007 at 17:28, Deruelle said:

I remember seeing all the awards of von Bismarck but where. This week end I find it. In an old review : INFO Nr. 54.

Regards

Christophe

 

 

edit hi, don't quite know why it's decided to multiply itself! (edited by speedytop)

Edited September 22, 2019 by speedytop
double pictures and text

[speedytop]

Hi Alex,

here is a higher resolution:

[Alex K]

Hi speedytop, thanks for the quick reply and readable copy, much appreciated, regards

Edited September 22, 2019 by Alex K

[VtwinVince]

I'd like to see the Iron Chancellor try and wear everything at once.

[Alex K]

1 hour ago, VtwinVince said:

I'd like to see the Iron Chancellor try and wear everything at once.

The mind boggles, actually I've noticed that any images of Bismarck wearing his decorations be that photographs or portrait paintings appear to be as rare as hen's teeth, (unless I'm on a different planet), the higher resolution copy list kindly posted by Speedytop shows an ordenspange, after much search I've located two images, one very poor where he is actually wearing one, they differ from the one on the list, quality is to poor for me to fully identify what's on them, anyone guess? In the two images I posted the medal bar appears to be the same, with at least 2 more medals

 

regards

Edited September 24, 2019 by Alex K

[Utgardloki]

A picture of the red eagle order grand cross with oak leave, crown, scepter and sword

Edited September 24, 2019 by Utgardloki

[Utgardloki]

 

 

Edited September 24, 2019 by Utgardloki

[Alex K]

Hi thanks for the images, that grand cross looks very interesting, out of curiosity, was there an equivalent breast star with crossed swords and sceptre? regards

Edited September 24, 2019 by Alex K

[Wessel Gordon]

Goodness gracious.

It seems if he wanted to wear all those at once he would have needed a wheelbarrow the length of a railroad cart to carry the weight...can't see how it's humanly possible to wear all those awards at once.

 

[VtwinVince]

I have a book entitled 'Bismarck Denkmal fuer das deutsche Volk' which has many shots of his awards. Unfortunately it is packed away in storage. I'd like to know how he got the Rettungsmedaille.

[Wessel Gordon]

Just a question out of curiosity about Bismarck.

I've read somewhere that although he was created Prince of Bismarck (inheritable by descendants) and Duke of Lauenburg (what the British would call a ''life peerage) he was bitterly disappointed that he wasn't given a territory to reign over as sovereign. Is there any truth in that?

[GdC26]

There is a book on Fürst Bismarck's awards: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Orden-Ehrenzeichen-Reichskanzlers-Fürst-Bismarck/dp/3937064087

 

Kind regards, 

Sandro

[Alex K]

3 hours ago, GdC26 said:

There is a book on Fürst Bismarck's awards: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Orden-Ehrenzeichen-Reichskanzlers-Fürst-Bismarck/dp/3937064087

 

Kind regards, 

Sandro

Thanks for the info, unfortunately a search seems to indicate that no-one has it available unfortunately.

 

whilst on the subject, looking through the list of decorations provided by speedytop, it lists "Tunisian House order" it's a bit vague, could this be the "Nishan ud-Dam - Husainid Family order" by any chance?

regards

[GdC26]

57 minutes ago, Alex K said:

Thanks for the info, unfortunately a search seems to indicate that no-one has it available unfortunately.

 

whilst on the subject, looking through the list of decorations provided by speedytop, it lists "Tunisian House order" it's a bit vague, could this be the "Nishan ud-Dam - Husainid Family order" by any chance?

regards

(Actually) search and ye shall find .....https://www.abebooks.com/servlet/ShopBasket?ac=a&ik=17939375840&ir&clickid=TcuSXQV6xxyJUEWwUx0Mo3E1Uknx39XCBz6k0A0&cm_mmc=aff-_-ir-_-59145-_-212653&ref=imprad59145&afn_sr=impact 

 

Kind regards, 

Sandro

[Alex K]

1 hour ago, GdC26 said:

(Actually) search and ye shall find .....https://www.abebooks.com/servlet/ShopBasket?ac=a&ik=17939375840&ir&clickid=TcuSXQV6xxyJUEWwUx0Mo3E1Uknx39XCBz6k0A0&cm_mmc=aff-_-ir-_-59145-_-212653&ref=imprad59145&afn_sr=impact 

 

Kind regards, 

Sandro

Thank you, I did try them but I suspect it was the uk branch, it said no stock if memory serves me right

[GdC26]

Abebooks UK yields the same Amsterdam offering. Anyway, it's a publication well worth having for anyone interested in the topic of this thread.

Kind regards, 

Sandro

[saschaw]

For those who might be interested, the 2008 book on Bismarck's awards is available at Michael Autengruber's orden-der-welt.de as well, for a ridiculous EUR 24,80. I think I paid significantly more for mine, back then... and it was worth every Cent!

[David M]

So how does one order it? No links on the website to an order form

[saschaw]

I think you would have to send a email to Autengruber, as suggested on the start page.

 

[OvBacon]

A quick google search of "Die Orden und Ehrenzeichen des Reichskanzlers Fürst Otto von Bismarck" brings up a lot of places where you can get it including Amazon. I'm in the US and it is not delivered here but depending on your location your Amazon or book provider might.

Edited April 8, 2020 by OvBacon

[David M]

I will try amazon. None of my mails to Autengruber in the last 10+ years were ever answered by him

[saschaw]

I totally get your point, David, but have to say I never had that problem in years... I'm soon to send him a big list of books I need once I have compared my library to his offerings.

By the way, has anybody seen the Grand Cross award document of the Order of Saint Marinus, offered at ratisbon's? That probably has to be an once in a life time chance for sure...

[VtwinVince]

Wow, that is impressive calligraphy.