House Order of Hohenzollern - info needed

[webr55]

Karl Spathelf died in 1964:

https://www.villinger-geschichten.de/spathelf-villingen-importierte-waren-aus-aller-welt/

 

 

[webr55]

More about Walther Stennes (1895-1983), who went into SA, later left for China, helped reorganise Chiang Kai-Shek's army and commanded his bodyguards:

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walther_Stennes

 

 

Edited May 12, 2022 by webr55

[webr55]

Might be a Princely one, but some "Hausorden von Hohenzollern" is listed for Lt (acc. to VL) Hans-Henning von der Osten (1899-1960) in the Deutsche Biographie:

https://www.deutsche-biographie.de/sfz73895.html

[webr55]

Winkhaus is Hermann (1897-1968):

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermann_Winkhaus

 

 

[Daniel Krause]

Thanks a lot!!!!

 

Haase - hmpf... I have Haase as Lt and KompFhr, first name Walther.

Haase, the flyer - no HOH3X in Dez.17 to him, no princely HEK as well....

 

H.-H. von der Osten got a Ernestinian knights cross with swords, no HOH or HEK acc. my data.

 

Best,

Daniel

[webr55]

Haase's Personalbogen as teacher explicitly lists, among other awards, a "Hoh. Hausorden": 

https://archivdatenbank.bbf.dipf.de/actaproweb/image.xhtml?id=4424b649-22bd-45d2-9461-288e0eb77244 

https://archivdatenbank.bbf.dipf.de/actaproweb/archive.xhtml?id=Vz++++++1d7f76af-59b8-40a8-9395-a5e761f394ca

 

[Daniel Krause]

I see....

Quite odd. An End-17 award of a HOH should be published everywhere...

Oct /  Nov 18 would be something else...

 

Best,

Daniel

 

[Dave Danner]

Going by the date of award, I would think Walther Haase was the Lt.d.R. in RIR 32.

 

Otto Haase is, as Daniel says, odd. The Personalbogen says he was promoted to Lt.d.R. on 14.5.1915. The two Lts.d.R. on that date were in the LehrIR (Berlin) and RIR 34 (Hannover). I would assume Otto was the LehrIR one, since he was a student in Berlin in August 1914 and is unconnected to Hannover.

 

Hans-Henning von der Osten was promoted to Leutnant on 29.11.1917, so a 1917 award as the Deutsche Biographie entry states would be highly unlikely.

[webr55]

What about Quiring and Thoenissen?

 

[Deruelle]

Hello

I am looking for several HOH3X date to Saxon officers .Thanks for your help

OLt Dietrich Bischoff

Major Georg von der Bussche-Haddenhausen

Lt d.R. Kurt Heinrich

Hauptmann Alex Rühle von Lilienstern

Major Konrad von Rüdiger

Lt Oskar Thierfelder

Major Georg von Watzdorf

 

Thanks

 

Christophe

[Dave Danner]

6 hours ago, webr55 said:

What about Quiring and Thoenissen?

Quiring doesn't show up on any list I've seen. He was a Lt.d.R. in FAR 54. The Zeitschrift für das Berg-, Hütten- und Salinenwesen only lists his EK1 & 2 and the Verwundetenabzeichen in Schwarz. His EK1 was reported in the 1916 edition of the Zeitschrift. If he did get the HOH3X, it was a very late-war one.

 

I'm not sure about Thoennissen. Zinke didn't list his sources. If Thoennissen has an HPA file in the archives, I have not seen it.

 

 

3 hours ago, Deruelle said:

Hello

I am looking for several HOH3X date to Saxon officers .Thanks for your help

OLt Dietrich Bischoff

Major Georg von der Bussche-Haddenhausen

Lt d.R. Kurt Heinrich

Hauptmann Alex Rühle von Lilienstern

Major Konrad von Rüdiger

Lt Oskar Thierfelder

Major Georg von Watzdorf

 

Thanks

 

Christophe

Christophe, here are a few:

 

Rühle von Lilienstern - 18.9.1918
Rüdiger - 18.9.1918
Watzdorf - 8.11.1918

[Deruelle]

Many thanks Dave

[webr55]

Hermann Müller is Hermann Müller-Brandenburg, later in Polizei and RAD, died 1955:

https://www.deutsche-biographie.de/sfzM4729-92.html

 

 

From: Das Deutsche Führerlexikon 1934-1935

 

 

Edited May 18, 2022 by webr55

[webr55]

Hedding is Prof. Dr. Otto, born 1881. Died 1960 (https://www.degruyter.com/document/doi/10.1515/9783110760217-005/pdf)

 

Führerlexikon (dto)

 

 

 

More info about Dr. Karl Jann (including other awards). 

 

Died in Dieburg in 1946 (death cert. at ancestry).

Edited May 18, 2022 by webr55

[webr55]

 

More info and awards on Walther Lingens:

 

Died in a Düsseldorf hospital on 28.1.1940 as Maj dL (acc. to ancestry).

 

Walter Reuschle (1894-1978):

http://www.frontflieger.de/3_313667_t.html

 

[webr55]

Dr. Hans Sidow is listed with a "Hohenzollern-Abzeichen (?)", whatever that means. Died in 1945. 

[Deruelle]

12 minutes ago, webr55 said:

Dr. Hans Sidow is listed with a "Hohenzollern-Abzeichen (?)", whatever that means. Died in 1945. 

Hi, He received the Princely Honor Cross 3rd class with X of Hohenzollern on 2 MAy 1918

[webr55]

More info about awards of Richard Waldschmidt, born 1882. 

He made Flak-Oberst in 1942. I couldn't find his exact death date, but he is found in Berlin address books until 1962.

[webr55]

Karl Wilhelm Solff, born 19.6.1872 in Schwelm, died 20.9.1941 in Baden (acc. to ancestry).

 

Other awards, acc. to Deutsche Luftfahrer-Zeitschrift 1918:

 

Adolf Soldan died as Oberst aD in Bad Nauheim in 1950 (death cert. at ancestry). 

Edited May 21, 2022 by webr55

[webr55]

Trying to find the first name of Hptm dR Skrodzki from RIR 38. He cannot be the Hptm dL (1914) from GGR 5, that was Friedrich/Fritz, born 1864 in Limburg, in captivity from 1917 to 1919.

 

He can only be the Lt dR in the 1914 RL, who was originally in GrenR 11 (with location Neutomischel): Erich Skrodzki (1883-1955)

 

https://marjorie-wiki.de/wiki/Erich_Skrodzki

 

His death certificate lists him as "Direktor des Rechnungshofes des Deutschen Reiches a.D.". 

 

 

 

Edited May 22, 2022 by webr55

[webr55]

The Hptm Beeckmann in our list was from FAR 35, Patent as Lt in 1900, Major aD in 1918, but I couldn't find his first name. 

 

 

[Glenn J]

11 hours ago, webr55 said:

The Hptm Beeckmann in our list was from FAR 35, Patent as Lt in 1900, Major aD in 1918, but I couldn't find his first name. 

 

 

 

Richard Beeckmann.

 

Regards

Glenn

[webr55]

1 hour ago, Glenn J said:

 

Richard Beeckmann.

 

Regards

Glenn

 

Thanks! Now I could find him: Born 13. Mai 1879 in Barmen, in address book Düsseldorf 1941/42 as Major z.V.

Died 22. Dezember 1959 (https://michaelwiescher.com/getperson.php?personID=I411&tree=Beeckmann) 

Edited May 23, 2022 by webr55

[webr55]

Constantin Rudolf Karl Maria Freiherr von Berchem-Königsfeld, 1889 (Steinach) -1948 (Berlin) (acc. to myheritage)

[webr55]

The Lt dR "Belimack" in our list is probably a misread Fraktur writing of "Behmack". Belimack does not exist as a name. 

We have a Lt dR Kurt Behmack in the VL, from MG-Kompanie of IR 72. From Bunzlau/Schlesien. 

 

This looks like another fascinating story: born 1887, he was from a Jewish family, became Zahnarzt in Torgau, emigrated to Paraguay in 1939 and returned to Germany, died in 1962.

 

https://stolpersteine-torgau.de/index.php/orte-biographien/karl-marx-platz-6-behmack