medalnet Posted October 20, 2005 Posted October 20, 2005 I recently acquired this medal bar, but am not sure if it is possible to identify the bearer?!
joe campbell Posted October 21, 2005 Posted October 21, 2005 it's MINE!!!thank you for finding it. i lost it last week nearthe post office...seriously, it is magnificent!could i ask you to identify the pieces in the fourthand seventh positions.you find wonderful pieces!joe
Paul C Posted October 21, 2005 Posted October 21, 2005 I also saw this out the same place you did. I was working with the seller to trace it. It is in the works and I will let others comment. Please PM me on this.
Dave Danner Posted October 21, 2005 Posted October 21, 2005 could i ask you to identify the pieces in the fourthand seventh positions.1. Prussia; Iron Cross, 2nd Class2. Prussia: Royal House Order of Hohenzollern, Knight with Swords3. Baden: Order of the Z?hringen Lion, Knight 2nd (?) Class with Oakleaves and Swords 4. Reuss: Princely Reuss Honor Cross, 2nd Class with Swords5. Germany: Honor Cross for Combatants6. Prussia: 25-year Long Service Cross7. Prussia: Life Saving Medal8. Prussia: Centenary Medal9. Austria-Hungary: Military Merit Cross 3rd Class with War DecorationThe Reuss Honor Cross, 2nd Class indicates a major, likely on staff (majors with higher commands might get the Officer's Cross). The lack of many prewar medals seems to make a unique match hard, but there are likely candidates among pre-war captains with only a Life Saving Medal who made major during the war, such as Maj. Paetzold, late of IR.114 (a Baden regiment, by the way).
medalnet Posted October 21, 2005 Author Posted October 21, 2005 indeed:3. Baden: Order of the Z?hringen Lion, Knight 2nd Class with Oakleaves and Swords 4. Reuss: Princely Reuss Honor Cross, 2nd Class with Swords in GOLD
Guest Rick Research Posted October 21, 2005 Posted October 21, 2005 I do not find this officer in the 1924 Reichsheer Rangliste. Neal O'Connor could not locate ANY WW1 award rolls from either Reuss archive. Just the HHOX and NZ3bXmE are not enough to make an identification, and there is always the possibility that the ? was awarded during the war and not pre-war.
Dave Danner Posted October 21, 2005 Posted October 21, 2005 (edited) I do not find this officer in the 1924 Reichsheer Rangliste. Neal O'Connor could not locate ANY WW1 award rolls from either Reuss archive. Just the HHOX and NZ3bXmE are not enough to make an identification, and there is always the possibility that the ? was awarded during the war and not pre-war.So can we rule out Paetzold? It would be cool to get it on the semi-random first guess. He was a Major a.D. in the Ehren-Rangliste, so he wouldn't be in the 1924 Reichsheer list. Edited October 21, 2005 by Dave Danner
Claudio Posted October 21, 2005 Posted October 21, 2005 (edited) Beautiful medal Bar, Andreas! I see so rarely medal bars with orders in Gold... That is really a treaure. Can we see also a picture of the back?Ciao,Claudio Edited October 21, 2005 by Claudio
medalnet Posted October 21, 2005 Author Posted October 21, 2005 here is the back. Yes, I thought it is one of those bars that will just be nice without the name.
Stogieman Posted October 21, 2005 Posted October 21, 2005 Nice bar... an understatement actually. I think any acquisition of a mounted Reuss HO is a commendable feat!
Guest Rick Research Posted October 21, 2005 Posted October 21, 2005 Can't rule Paetzold out, since no clue what he got "in total" during the war. We don't know that for ANYBODY not in the Reichswehr.
Daniel Krause Posted October 21, 2005 Posted October 21, 2005 Unfortunately no Reu? rolls around...I?m down to around 100 possible guys. HOH3X, RM, BZ3bXE - combo is the clue. I?m just not sure if it is enough for a hard ID.Best regardsDaniel
Guest Rick Research Posted October 22, 2005 Posted October 22, 2005 The problem, of course, with someone like this with no visible post-1918 career is that without ALL the German WW1 award rolls, we have NO WAY to EVER tell:did THIS one get a Hamburg Hanseatic Cross? Did THAT one get a Hessian Bravery Medal? And so on.
Bob Hunter Posted October 22, 2005 Posted October 22, 2005 That is unfortunate or to quote Snoopy, "ARRRRRRRRRRRRGH!" Still a gorgeous bar.
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