Baltenkreuz / Where are all the Baltic Crosses?

[paulbear]

PROBABLE but who has the right to tell a VET what to do

PAUL

[Noor]

Hi Paul,

This vet was still in active service 1939. Because two golden LS awards, probably up to Oberst level officer I guess (or what I had been learned here on GMIC). I can understand those mistakes when the person wasn't in service but in this case it is just against the rules.

Still nice and great bar to have what shows "Germans punctuality" wasn't in place all the time. :cheeky:

[paulbear]

Hi Paul,

This vet was still in active service 1939. Because two golden LS awards, probably up to Oberst level officer I guess (or what I had been learned here on GMIC). I can understand those mistakes when the person wasn't in service but in this case it is just against the rules.

Still nice and great bar to have what shows "Germans punctuality" wasn't in place all the time.

YES I understand, what I was impling was a saying here in CANADA that who will question a veteran as he has been there for us and can do no wrong

PAUL;

[Chris Boonzaier]

"There was apparently no official first or second class - the award was meant to be hung from a ribbon but pinback versions became common. "

According to the text on the back of the document, it seems it was supposed to be worn on the lower left chest (i.e. pinback) but that the ribbon could be worn in the buttonhole?

[Georg14]

Good Day! If it is interesting, some crosses from my box, here not shown.

Screwback, unfortunately without a nut.

[Georg14]

Next.

[Georg14]

Ag 800.

[Chris Boonzaier]

Ag 800.

that is a REALLY nice one!!!

[Georg14]

And the most interesting (my opinion). It was found in Liefland(South Estland). Fe(magnetic), aver. is painted by black.

[paulbear]

some very nice examples, lots of variations

PAUL

[Odulf]

The appropriate certificate, this one issued to a Vize-Feldwebel of the I. Bataillon. 3. Kurlandische Inf-Rgt., of the Iron Division

Edited April 2, 2011 by Odulf

[robert39]

Both versions of the Baltic Cross (breast pin and from a white ribbon) are shown here and are probably from the same manufacturer!!!!

Robert

[Chris Boonzaier]

Nice, the top is really "salty"....

[Wessel]

This is my example (thin pin and rivets) on a RAD Admin Officer's tunic.

[Wessel]

Sorry!

[wschmidt]

Hello People,

What do you think about this Kreuz?

This is another type of awards that we see with some different type of hardware. Is possible to know if it pos or no 1939????

Regards,

William

[Destruction]

Hi William,

No probs with this one, a good cross probably produced in 30ies.

[M Hunter]

Looks like an original to me too.

Best wishes

Matt

[Eric Stahlhut]

this one is made in the latvian style. i have not seen these very often. any opinions? is it a fake, or is it a commemorative piece awarded during the abstimmung for oberschlesien in 1921? the cross is very well made, magnetic, and dimensions are correct.

Edited May 21, 2012 by Eric Stahlhut

[Eric Stahlhut]

oh, and the magnetic portion of cross is blued and worn at edges

http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_05_2012/post-4736-0-22187200-1337183827.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_05_2012/post-4736-0-66325500-1337183856.jpg

[Destruction]

Hi Eric,

That's a fake made in Russia, we discussed it on WAF recently http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/showthread.php?t=589555

[Eric Stahlhut]

hi,

thank you for providing the link to the thread-- it was sent to me a few days ago. this is probably one of the nicest quality fakes i have ever encountered.

do you have any more info on this russian person who made these crosses? i did a web search on him, which did not bring me any results.

thanks again!

Edited May 21, 2012 by Eric Stahlhut

[Destruction]

Hi Eric,

Not that much to add to WAF thread, actually. The guy is an artist, producing all kind of decoration copies (including fantasy pieces, or reconstructions of some mysterious/never seen ones). He's selling them as copies as well, but these are sometimes re-sold as originals. I'm not that much into this, just know that he is one of the old collectors of White Russian stuff, and an Author of some books. Alas, seems like I can't post any pictures here to show some of his creatures....

[Eric Stahlhut]

here is something that may be pertinent to the thread on the other forum. i think the member who initiated the thread is a member over here as well, so hopefully he will see this.

this is from a book i have that deals with the baltic cross. this appears to be a screwback white army baltic cross. perhaps this is the type he once had?

[Eric Stahlhut]

here's the accompanying text for the cross depicted above