House Order of Hohenzollern - info needed

[webr55]

Lt Karl Nagel, of a Garde-Reg. (I suppose it is the one from 2. GzF)

From Pforzheimer Anzeiger (6.7.1918)

[Daniel Krause]

GREAT!!!!!

 

Karl Nagel and Pfarrer Keller had the Princely Hausorden, not the Royal one.

 

Witzel and Bäsch were completely new.

 

MANY THANKS!!!

Daniel

P.S. Monfort is Montfort :-)

 

[Mattyboy]

Hi Deruelle, 

Yes I am referring to the same Oblt Hans Clausen who was awarded the SH3 while serving with FA 230 in 1917. 

Best Regards, 

Matt. 

[Deruelle]

Hi Matt

Thanks a lot.

With that information,  now we have for Hans Clausen the following orders and medals

knight cross of St Henry of Saxe

knight cross 2nd class with X of Albert of Saxe

Medal in silver of St Henry of Saxe

Iron cross 2nd and first class

Knight cross with swords of House Order of Hohenzollern

Observer badge

 

Christophe

On 12/11/2020 at 16:10, webr55 said:

Again, we have him already I think, but still: Olt Hans Clausen, from Jenaer Volksblatt, 1. September 1918 

Hi,

I want to be sure, you are not talking about Leutnant Hans Clausen from FA 230 and who served in the FR 108 ?

[webr55]

On the list, but still more info here maybe:

Lt Heinrich Neuwirth, from Karlsruher Zeitung, 7.6.1918

From Ostpreußenblatt, 26.2.1955:

Hptm Ernst Mann from Pillau

 

 

 

Edited November 18, 2020 by webr55

[Mattyboy]

Major von Reckow from FAR 63. I can't find him in the MWB or the Staatsanzeiger. 

http://sammlungen.ub.uni-frankfurt.de/periodika/periodical/pageview/6944977?query=Hausorden 1917 

[Mattyboy]

Not sure if this is a new name or not - Oblt dR Georg Stephan from Altenburg. IR 153, died 1922. 

 

One more - Lt Karl Weber. His name is so common that it might be difficult to find out more about him :- 

http://sammlungen.ub.uni-frankfurt.de/periodika/periodical/pageview/7244269?query=Hohenzollern 

[Mattyboy]

A first name and some additional awards. Oblt Dietrich Jentsch 

 

[webr55]

More info on Erich Lubenau, from Ostpreußenblatt, 4.5.1957. 

And on Wilhelm Strüvy, from Ostpreußenblatt 1962:

[webr55]

Lt dR Wilhelm Ruwie (destroyed seven tanks). From Nassauer Bote, 31.10.1918

[webr55]

Another one from the Ostpreußenblatt (23.4.1960), might have some new info on Ulrich Benefeldt from IR 43:

And another one, might have more info on Oberst Julius Münster, from Ostpreußenblatt 20.8.1960. 

[Mattyboy]

Great work! Here is a 1932 article relating to a Josef Jans (b. 1894). I cannot find him in the MWB or any other publications from the war era. 

http://sammlungen.ub.uni-frankfurt.de/periodika/periodical/pageview/3430365?query=segelflieger hausorden 

[webr55]

Many Bülows out there. This is Harry, OTL aD, from GrenR 1.

Ostpreußenblatt, 15.2.1964.

[Mattyboy]

Rudolf Fischer from the 1942 edition of 'Garten Kunst'. Born 15 Dec 1883 in Berlin. See page 9 of the first file, and page 2 of the second link for details of his EK1. He was from GGR 3 and RIR 262. The book on the latter regiment notes his HOH3x award on page 238. He appears a few times in the verlustlisten. 

http://gartentexte-digital.ub.tu-berlin.de/archiv/Gartenkunst/Jg.55/B10.pdf

http://gartentexte-digital.ub.tu-berlin.de/archiv/Gartenkunst/Jg.30/Anhang1.pdf

http://dfg-viewer.de/show?tx_dlf[double]=0&tx_dlf[id]=http%3A%2F%2Fdigital.wlb-stuttgart.de%2Fmets%2Furn%3Anbn%3Ade%3Absz%3A24-digibib-kxp16632258343%2Furn%3Anbn%3Ade%3Absz%3A24-digibib-kxp16632258343.xml&tx_dlf[page]=270&cHash=6c3ecab334e9f6328518f1cc348b779b 

[Mattyboy]

Leutnant dL Heinrich Zeininger (see page 8). Born 1867 !

http://gartentexte-digital.ub.tu-berlin.de/archiv/Gartenkunst/Jg.52/B09.pdf 

[webr55]

10 hours ago, Mattyboy said:

Leutnant dL Heinrich Zeininger (see page 8). Born 1867 !

http://gartentexte-digital.ub.tu-berlin.de/archiv/Gartenkunst/Jg.52/B09.pdf 

Very interesting! The last Prussian "Hofgartendirektor". There is even a picture in the article, however the scan makes it unrecognizable. Fortunately, it can be found on the net:
It might be that this is the Hohenzollern Hausorden without swords.


 

[David M]

I think so too. What about the rest of the ODM in the picture?

[webr55]

What I can recognize:

EK, Verdienstkreuz für Kriegshilfe, HHO, RAO4, some Long Service decoration probably

then 4 foreign decorations:
first might be Austrian
2nd looks a bit like the Hungarian War Remembrance Medal, but I'm not sure
3rd might be Danebrog
last one: Bulgarian Order of Civil Merit

Edited November 22, 2020 by webr55

[Micke]

I looked in the Swedish "statskalendern" from 1880. Statskalendern are were important people in Sweden was listed with there ODM´s. I found 4 persons who hade recived this order. 

Carl Herman Oscar Ennes, Ärekors af Hohenz. Hus 0. 3:e kl. 

Frih. Gustaf Johan Wilhelm Ehrenborgh, Ärekors af Hohenz. Hus O. 2:a kl.

Sven Hjalmar Thestrup, Ärekors af Hohenz. Hus-O. 3:e kl.

Olde, Emanuel Mathias, Ärekors Hohenz. Hus. 0. 3:e kl. 

So these person would have gotten the order before 1880. 

[Daniel Krause]

On 20/11/2020 at 22:58, Mattyboy said:

Great work! Here is a 1932 article relating to a Josef Jans (b. 1894). I cannot find him in the MWB or any other publications from the war era. 

http://sammlungen.ub.uni-frankfurt.de/periodika/periodical/pageview/3430365?query=segelflieger hausorden 

Hello,

 

does anybody have more info on Jans?

I have a Lt d.R. Jans in Feldluftschiffabteilung 21.

Maybe him?

 

Best,

Daniel

[webr55]

How about Olt Kurt Rabe from 2nd GzF:

Ostpreußenblatt, 2.8.1975

[Mattyboy]

Hi Daniel, 

Sorry I don't have anything on the WW1 career of Jans, and only one other newspaper clipping. 

Thanks to all for the additional info on Zeininger! 

 

 

Scratch that, I have found a Lt dR Josef Jans in the verlustlisten. Lightly wounded with IR 394. His date of birth matches the online records. Not much, but something at least. 

https://www.lagis-hessen.de/pnd/1115669370

[webr55]

One of the many Beckers: Dr. Ernst Becker, from IR44. Became a dentist later. 

Ostpreußenblatt, 25.12.1976

[webr55]

It looks like we have him already, but still: death notice of Lt dR Friedrich Eversmeyer, 
Westfälische Neueste Nachrichten, 22.10.1918

Similar: Lt dR Gustav Kolkmann (it however only says "eingereicht"/submitted to HHOX, so no guarantee he got it)

Westfälische Neueste Nachrichten, 15.10.1918

Again, only submitted: Lt dR August Velhagen 

Westfälische Neueste Nachrichten, 26.10.1918

Edited November 25, 2020 by webr55

[webr55]

Hopefully helpful: Lt dR Gustav Meier from IR 55

Westfälische Neueste Nachrichten, 13.7.1918