christerd Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 What do youn think about this ? Offered for sale now, Zaehringer Loewen Knight first class , sorry for the small pics but can you see anything disturbiing ? Best regards Christer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VtwinVince Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 It looks like a nice one from these pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudius Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 It looks like a nice one from these pictures. yes agreed -from these photos. True story; long before the days of internet, I bought a OZL from Manions. The catalog had a photo of the front, but when I received it and turned it over it was FLAT as a board. just the main piece a one-sided poured pot-metal with green stones affixed to the obverse and the reverse was as featureless as a reverse HK (without hallmarks). (This must have been a museum piece, because it would never satisfy as a fake to anyone who could pick it up and look at the backside.) There return policy required that I write, at length, what was wrong with the piece....really?!? Their crack experts at Manions didn't know that real OZLs have "something" on the back side. Final insult was that while they returned my money for the cross, they would not return the buyer's premium or the shipping cost. I have never used them again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saschaw Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Good cross! Late 19th century, and gold. If it's not damaged, go for it! True story; long before the days of internet, I bought a OZL from Manions. The catalog had a photo of the front, but when I received it and turned it over it was FLAT as a board. just the main piece a one-sided poured pot-metal with green stones affixed to the obverse and the reverse was as featureless as a reverse HK (without hallmarks). (This must have been a museum piece, because it would never satisfy as a fake to anyone who could pick it up and look at the backside.) There return policy required that I write, at length, what was wrong with the piece....really?!? Their crack experts at Manions didn't know that real OZLs have "something" on the back side. Final insult was that while they returned my money for the cross, they would not return the buyer's premium or the shipping cost. I have never used them again. Never seen one of them, but the Göde pieces. Was it silver and glass, or rather plastic with odd som metal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudius Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 (edited) Never seen one of them, but the Göde pieces. Was it silver and glass, or rather plastic with odd som metal? it was terrible. I don't know if it was plastic or glass stones, but the body was some kind of poor quality metal. It would be fine for a display in poorly-lighted, poorly-secured museum where the viewer couldn't get very close to it as an example of what Imperial Era awards look like. otherwise..... Edited May 1, 2012 by Claudius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saschaw Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Thanks! That was probably a so called "museum copy" by Göde. Real crap... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christerd Posted May 6, 2012 Author Share Posted May 6, 2012 The Zähringer Löwen that I started the thread with was sold for 685 Euro , probably to a German buyer .. Weight 16,4 gram , 43 mm dia. Nice one awarded to a man who was at the Royal court of King Oscar II in Sweden. Sad to see the Orders now sold all over and a group of 12 awards splitted up. Christer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Eagle Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 ... and did you like those beauties? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudius Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 beautiful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dond Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Very nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graham Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 Zähringer Löwen, certainly beautiful awards IMO. A 2nd class with swords, any opinions would be appreciated: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dond Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 Nice original 2d class with swords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graham Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Thanks dond. Another one for review. This one is a 2nd class with swords and oaks(not 100% certain about the oaks, there is no marking on them): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komtur Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Early one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paris Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Hier mal 2 nebeneinander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VtwinVince Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Huebsche Zwillinge, zeig bitte die ganze Schnalle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Komtur, what period did they make the early crosses? chuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komtur Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, chuck said: ... what period did they make the early crosses? ... As far as I know the sky with the pink touch is related to the maker Jacob Chr. Petry and the period 1860ies and 1870ies. Therefore this style is typical for the awards with swords of the wars of 1866 and 1870/71. Note the difference in the colour between the both decorations on the medalbar of member Paris. Edited September 18, 2019 by Komtur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 very beautiful award and on my wish list. I can see the center medallion is much simpler castle than the later version which also appears to have a thicker ring around the center medallion. Regards, Chuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komtur Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 1 hour ago, FAR 32 said: Regarding the medallions of this award, I notice three rocks (or ostrich eggs?) laying in the grass in front of the tower. Does anybody know what their significance is, or what they represent? Unfortunately I have no answer ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graham Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 FAR 32, Nothing about the rocks but an interesting website: - https://ordensmuseum.de/historische-oe/der-orden-vom-zahringer-lowen-baden/ Regards, Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1812 Overture Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 About two years ago, I owned a Zailingen breast star. Later I sold it because I was short of money. I am now beginning to regret it. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utgardloki Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 16 hours ago, FAR 32 said: Regarding the medallions of this award, I notice three rocks (or ostrich eggs?) laying in the grass in front of the tower. Does anybody know what their significance is, or what they represent? That's very interesting, I did not find anything either. Does anyone have more pictures of versions in "Brillanten", I only know the one from Wikipedia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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