Leutwein Posted June 11, 2009 Posted June 11, 2009 And the last one and "unfortunately" an older one (didn?t receive his HOH for WW1). But I hope it is also interesting.All the best Karsten
Leutwein Posted June 11, 2009 Posted June 11, 2009 and the medal bar of Generalfeldmarschall Graf von Waldersee
Guest Rick Research Posted June 11, 2009 Posted June 11, 2009 G?rtner was a fascinating character-- the oldest/most senior reserve officer to win the Pour le Merite.Poor Count Waldersee had the most amazing military career, only to be asphyxiated by a malfunctioning coal heater in China.
KIR Posted June 11, 2009 Posted June 11, 2009 Ribbon bar of Max RademacherHi Karsten,great pictures - thank you for showing us! One question, the name is Max Rademacher or (maybe) Max Radermacher!?Thanks and best regards, Jens
RAO Posted June 11, 2009 Posted June 11, 2009 Hi Karsten,great pictures - thank you for showing us! One question, the name is Max Rademacher or (maybe) Max Radermacher!?Thanks and best regards, JensA good question, there are 2 Rademacher and 1 Radermacher with the HOH3X. Which is it? ;o)Regards Mike
Leutwein Posted June 11, 2009 Posted June 11, 2009 :speechless: Sorry! It is Max Radermacher.Commander of RIR 116Pic of the backsideBest wishesKarsten
Leutwein Posted June 11, 2009 Posted June 11, 2009 @Rick ResearchFor sure! Wasn?t it Generalmajor Maximilian Graf von Yorck von Wartenburg who asphyxiated by a malfunctioning coal heater? Count Waldersee died 1904 in Hannover.Best wishesKarsten
Guest Rick Research Posted June 11, 2009 Posted June 11, 2009 Ah. That's what happens trying to remember something I read back in the 1970s.... :cheers:
Leutwein Posted June 19, 2009 Posted June 19, 2009 (edited) @Roman SlivinYes it is Erich G?rtner. Do you have some more informations of him @Rick ResearchWow in the 70s I wasn?t still bornOne of the certificates of Oberstleutnant Martin Julius Gerhard Kadelbach All the bestKarsten Edited June 19, 2009 by Leutwein
Roman Slivin Posted June 19, 2009 Posted June 19, 2009 @Roman SlivinYes it is Erich G?rtner. Do you have some more informations of him Hello Karsten,I have some information:?M3KV O. b. HGr. Mackensen/Res. IR. 205./preu?. Hptm. d. Ldw. a. D./In Anerkennung tapferen Verhaltens vor dem FeindeRegards,Roman
Roman Slivin Posted June 19, 2009 Posted June 19, 2009 Infanterie-Regiment 463Oberstlt. und Regts.-Kommandeur Laue (24. November 1917)Major und Batls.-Kommandeur (II.) de Rainville (24. November 1917)Hauptm. und Batls.-Kommandeur (III.) v. Schmidt (11. Mai 1918)Leutnant d. R. und Komp.-F?hrer (11.) Iosten (11. Mai 1918)Leutnant d. R. und Komp.-F?hrer (1.) Grosse (8. Iuli 1918)
Leutwein Posted June 19, 2009 Posted June 19, 2009 Hello Roman,thanks a lot! I had only this information, which I received from DanielGaertner, Erich, Major d.L.a.D. RIR 205, Zivil Polizei-Oberstleutnant, weitere Ausz.: pour le Merite und Verwundetenabzeichen in GoldBest wishesKarsten
jaba1914 Posted July 2, 2009 Posted July 2, 2009 So here is my HOH document. I would be glad for more information to the bearer.Regards Alex
Guest Rick Research Posted July 2, 2009 Posted July 2, 2009 Ahhh... VERY obscure. But you have added that HOH3X to what Erhard Roth knew! He used Rufname Hans.Feldart Rgt 68 before the warF?hnrich 24.11.01Leutnant 24.01.02Oberleutnant 24.01.11Hauptmann 21.05.14a.D. 31.03.20char. Major aD 15.02.21He was F?hrer Feldfliegerabteilung 33 June 1915 to April 1916, ended the war Stab kommandierender General Luftstreitkr?fteSpranger's only other known awards are SA3aX 18.06.15 and Crown to that 03.04.16. That';s from Roth.
jaba1914 Posted July 3, 2009 Posted July 3, 2009 Spranger's only other known awards are SA3aX 18.06.15 and Crown to that 03.04.16.No EK2, EK1, observer, DA25, retired aviation badge listed?Regards Alex
Guest Rick Research Posted August 8, 2009 Posted August 8, 2009 Post whatever his signature looks like. Nobody by that name, and reading what he scribled on back will be quicker than finding this combination.
Roman Slivin Posted August 8, 2009 Posted August 8, 2009 Post whatever his signature looks like. Nobody by that name, and reading what he scribled on back will be quicker than finding this combination. генерал Ганс Кибекер Photo from archive of NKVD.
Guest Rick Research Posted August 8, 2009 Posted August 8, 2009 No wonder they arrested millions of the wrong people-- no such person. I'm sure he'll turn up in a Reichsheer Rank List, I just don't have the time with other things I am doing right now and did not find him on a quick look through. With the Johanniters, he should be a "von Somebody."
Guest Rick Research Posted August 8, 2009 Posted August 8, 2009 Ha! He is poor old Georg VON NIEBECKER born in Bromberg 5 November 1877 but commissioned in Baden Pioneer Batallion 14. Retired as charakterisiert Generalmajor aD 30 September 1931 but was called back up as commander of Wehrbezirkskommando Weimar 1935-37. When the war started, mobilized as commander of "Oberbaustab 33"wherever and whatever that was. Seniority as Generalmajor zur Verfügung 1 November 1940. He served in this position ONLY 1 September 1939 to 2 January 1941, finally retiring permanently 31 May 1941... so he never served against the Soviet Union at all. It must simply have been his misfortune to have lived in an area under the Russian Zone of Occupation and he was taken away... by mistake. I have the ribbon bar of a Luftwaffe General who had the same thing happen-- apparently arrested because he had the same last name as an army cousin of his who HAD served inside the borders of the USSR during the war.
Roman Slivin Posted August 8, 2009 Posted August 8, 2009 Ha! He is poor old Georg VON NIEBECKER born in Bromberg 5 November 1877 but commissioned in Baden Pioneer Batallion 14. Retired as charakterisiert Generalmajor aD 30 September 1931 but was called back up as commander of Wehrbezirkskommando Weimar 1935-37. When the war started, mobilized as commander of "Oberbaustab 33"wherever and whatever that was. Seniority as Generalmajor zur Verfügung 1 November 1940. He served in this position ONLY 1 September 1939 to 2 January 1941, finally retiring permanently 31 May 1941... so he never served against the Soviet Union at all. It must simply have been his misfortune to have lived in an area under the Russian Zone of Occupation and he was taken away... by mistake. I have the ribbon bar of a Luftwaffe General who had the same thing happen-- apparently arrested because he had the same last name as an army cousin of his who HAD served inside the borders of the USSR during the war. NKVD arrested all military and civil officials. The general even were well for the general statistics. I know a case when have arrested the miner in full dress, thought that it the general.
VtwinVince Posted August 8, 2009 Posted August 8, 2009 The Russians forcibly took away millions of German civilians after the war ended as slave labor, and worked a large percentage to death. To the victors, the spoils, apparently.
Roman Slivin Posted August 8, 2009 Posted August 8, 2009 The Russians forcibly took away millions of German civilians after the war ended as slave labor, and worked a large percentage to death. To the victors, the spoils, apparently. It was the revenge... :(
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