The Prussian Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 (edited) Hello Lew! There is nothing special written... Lieber Emil! Besten Dank für Deine letzte(?) Karte. Ich bin auf einige Tage in Urlaub. Hoffe Dich aber bald wieder in Joht. (probably Johannisthal) zu treffen. Wann ich komme, weiß ich noch nicht genau. Es kommt darauf an, wie mein Urlaub genehmigt wird. Auf ein baldiges Wiedersehen verbleibe ich mit herzlichen Grüßen, Dein Eugen Düsseldorf den 2.11.15 Dear Emil! Thank you very much for your last card. I am on holiday for a few days. But hope to see you again soon in Joht. (probably Johannisthal) again soon. I don't yet know exactly when I'll be there. It depends on how my holiday is approved. I look forward to seeing you again soon with best regards, Eugen Düsseldorf 2.11.15 The card goes to: Marineflieger Emil Hasenkamp Berlin Johannisthal Waldstraße 8 / Guillemot A Guillemot lived in Waldstr.8. So Hasenkamp lived as a lodger with Guillemot (he was Kfm. = Kaufmann = salesman) Johannisthal was the plaace of the Marine-Landflieger-Abteilung (Naval Land Aircraft Department) Hasenkamp died in 1917: http://des.genealogy.net/search/show/3758591 https://www.google.com/maps/place/Waldstraße+8,+12487+Berlin/@52.4463874,13.5064963,16.04z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x47a848a8792566e7:0x93c5965a2d378b64!8m2!3d52.4464983!4d13.5089056!16s%2Fg%2F11c4ygjf_1?entry=ttu Edited January 6 by The Prussian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lew Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Thanks a lot! Hasenkamp(left) and Eugen(right) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedytop Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Besten Dank für Deine liebe Karte, ... (lb.) Uwe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soderbaum Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Hi The Eugen at right is rather certain Eugen Arns who spent nearly the entire War as Marine pilot. I have read his BAMA file. He was back at LFA J-thal at least from early Dec 1915. Eugen Arns was born in Kevelaer not far from Düsseldorf. Mvh Gunnar 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Here is his casualty list: http://des.genealogy.net/search/show/3774230 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lew Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 On 08/01/2024 at 15:04, Soderbaum said: Hi The Eugen at right is rather certain Eugen Arns who spent nearly the entire War as Marine pilot. I have read his BAMA file. He was back at LFA J-thal at least from early Dec 1915. Eugen Arns was born in Kevelaer not far from Düsseldorf. Mvh Gunnar Hi Gunnar, does it mention anything about his award record? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soderbaum Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Hi Lew, Both his BAMA files were thin, the second Pers 6/226598 had his awards w/o dates: LFAbz*, Eis.Halbmond, EKII, vwAbz (he was wounded two times) and later FEK, so no EKI. *26.05.1915 Gunnar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernd_W Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Hello Gents I'm struggling with the words before Oskar and his last name: I know it's quite hard and more a guess. But who do you think is this lieutenant? Kind regrets and thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dedehansen Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 hour ago, Bernd_W said: Hello Gents I'm struggling with the words before Oskar and his last name: I know it's quite hard and more a guess. But who do you think is this lieutenant? Kind regrets and thanks. Hi, Vize Feldwebel Kind regards Andreas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernd_W Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Thanks, do you think the Lts name could be Koepke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Hello! We would need more details. A military unit? Which town stands before the date 31.III.20? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernd_W Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Hello Andy, Its Wismar, Sturmabteilung Roßbach, after Kapp-Putsch related. Its 21.3.20. The date its mentioned in the Text where it's better to read: That's what I thought, because the Sturmabteilung Roßbach participated in the Kapp-Putsch in Wismar. But now looking at the Town's name, it looks more like Wissmar. Also, the second mentioning in the Text: The one besides the signature: But Wißmar would be in the Gießen area, and the Sturmabteilung Roßbach was in the Mecklenburg and Ruhr area during and after the Kapp-Putsch. Not sure if it's a strange writing or another town. And there is also a Wismar/Wißmar in Pomerania. https://gov.genealogy.net/item/show/WISMA2JO73MO The headquarters of the Arbeitsgemeinschaft Roßbach in Pomerania was at "Gut Sadow, Kreis Pyritz". Pyritz (Pyrzyce) is ~60km away from Wismar/Wißmar (Wyszomierz, West Pomeranian Voivodeship) in Pomerania. Would be a better match compared to the Gießen one. But its strange, its written with ss and not ß, especially when Roßbach is written with the ß: It's a Passport, saying he is now a Member of the Sturmabteilung Roßbach. My guess would be its Lieutenant Koepke, Roßbachs adjutant. But I wanted an unbiased answer about the name, because my thoughts are biased. See Wismar vs. Wissmar. Thanks, for asking me about the Town, leads to some thought about Wismar being right. If it's not Wismar, I'm not sure about Koepke. Because I think he was present in the Mecklenburg and Ruhr area during this time. Could also be some "Werbeoffizier". It's stamped with a "Briefstempel" from the Sturmabteilung, and the "Briefstempel" is crossed out. But I don't know if they even had regular stamps, especially in this banned and unbanned times. Kind regrets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Hello! Sure with Wismar? You wrote about Gießen. Wismar - Gießen are 470km! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernd_W Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Hello Andy I was a bit unclear, Sorry. Wißmar is a small town in the Gießen area. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wißmar Whats the towns name in your opinion? Wismar or Wissmar? Kind regrets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Ah, okay. I was confused. I noticed Wismar, not Wissmar. It's a different town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernd_W Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 So, do you think its a double s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Yes. I think so. But I didn' t know that Wissmar before... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernd_W Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Hello Andy Thank! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernd_W Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 If someone at any point has the same question. Its Koepkes signature. Its in the Book: Sturmabteilung Roßbach - Als Grenzschutz in Westpreußen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernd_W Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 (edited) Hello Gents Whats the word before Unteroffizier? Abteilung? Kind regrets and thanks. Edited March 1 by Bernd_W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyC Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Abs = Absender GreyC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David M Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 I can read everything but the last 3 lines. Would anybody be able to read this? Alternatively this link leads to the document Thanks a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyC Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 (edited) I can´t read it all but it says in short, that with an order of 29th Oct. of 1813 he was (if I understand it correctly) kicked out of the officers corps because of his behaviour in the face of the enemy. maybe during the Völkerschlacht in Leipzig? GreyC Edited April 20 by GreyC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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