lew Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 (edited) Before starting the restoration project I'd like to have your confirmation which medal and class should go for 4th, 6th and 7th position. Please share your thoughts, thanks! EKII Saxony bronze war merit cross Saxony 25 year service cross Prussian crown order or 3rd Reich civil service medal? Centennial medal Württemberg Friedrichs order, which class? 1922 red cross medal? Edited July 31, 2021 by lew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VtwinVince Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 I think you're on the right track, I'd go with a KO4 and a peacetime FO2 along with the Red Cross thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dedehansen Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 3 hours ago, lew said: Before starting the restoration project I'd like to have your confirmation which medal and class should go for 4th, 6th and 7th position. Please share your thoughts, thanks! Saxony 25 year service cross Hi lew, I believe No. 3 ist an Albrechtsorden. Kind regards Andreas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beau Newman Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 I would tend to lean more toward the 3rd Reich Civil Service for the 6th place award. I would think that a Freidrichs Order would be higher in the order of precedence than 6th. As far as the 7th Place, any of the RK versions from 1922 right up to 1945 are possible as they all used the same ribbon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurentius Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 48 minutes ago, dedehansen said: I believe No. 3 ist an Albrechtsorden. I concur, followed by a Kronenorden and a Friedrichsorden. A fine bar, would make for a nice result Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lew Posted July 31, 2021 Author Share Posted July 31, 2021 (edited) The 3rd ribbon seems have a thin white strip in the middle, therefore I thought it's service medal ribbon not AO. The medal at 6th position should be FO due to the height with its suspension loop. If comparing to the KO ribbon at 4th place where it shows marks of cross arm and the eyelet positions, a WWII civil service medal is in similar size as KO which won't fit there. Edited July 31, 2021 by lew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dedehansen Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 Hi Lew, https://www.ehrenzeichen-orden.de/deutsche-staaten/dienstauszeichnung-25-jahre-fur-offiziere.html Regards Andreas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deruelle Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 Hi, Nice project. Definitively, the third ribbon is for Albrecht Orden (probably 1st class). About the other medal, I agree with PKO4 and WF3b. It is not possible to see TR medal here like there is no Hindenburg cross. Christophe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Krause Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Hello Lew, a pretty nice Project! Buy please - an EK2 (obvious) - a Saxon KVK (obvious as well) - a Saxon Officers long service cross - a Prussian KO4 - a Centenary (obvious as well) - a Wuerttemberg Frederick knight 1st class without swords - an Austrian Leopold knight with war decoration If you want to make the group complete, buy a Saxon Merit Order Commander, an Albrecht Commander and a Bavarian Military Merit Order 2nd class. ... and put a name tag on it which says Generalleutnant a.D. Kurt Alphons STARK, 1858-1934 Commander of Truppenübungsplatz Königsbrück and Inspekteur der Kriegsgefangenenlager. Best, Daniel 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicolas7507 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 3 hours ago, Daniel Krause said: Generalleutnant a.D. Kurt Alphons STARK, 1858-1934 Commander of Truppenübungsplatz Königsbrück and Inspekteur der Kriegsgefangenenlager. Ich bin so froh einen echten Zauberer zu kennen!!! ?? Great job, Daniel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
922F Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Daniel, another amazing, wonderful discovery! Kudos to the WIZARD! Great find Lew! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David M Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 10 hours ago, Daniel Krause said: Hello Lew, a pretty nice Project! Buy please - an EK2 (obvious) - a Saxon KVK (obvious as well) - a Saxon Officers long service cross - a Prussian KO4 - a Centenary (obvious as well) - a Wuerttemberg Frederick knight 1st class without swords - an Austrian Leopold knight with war decoration If you want to make the group complete, buy a Saxon Merit Order Commander, an Albrecht Commander and a Bavarian Military Merit Order 2nd class. ... and put a name tag on it which says Generalleutnant a.D. Kurt Alphons STARK, 1858-1934 Commander of Truppenübungsplatz Königsbrück and Inspekteur der Kriegsgefangenenlager. Best, Daniel Why would he have gotten an OLO3? Wouldnt a OEK3 make more sense because of the hierarchy of k.u.k. ODM?(I thought the OLO was higher in rank) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Krause Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 I was even wondering, why he did get one. I would expect a military merit cross, which was the basic award for German officers as well, or even an Iron Crown 2nd class... But it is proven in the Austrian Schematismus, that he did get the Leopold in 1917. Who knows why... sometimes the Austrian awards to Germans did not always follow strict rules...? Best, Daniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lew Posted August 4, 2021 Author Share Posted August 4, 2021 On 02/08/2021 at 10:46, Daniel Krause said: ... and put a name tag on it which says Generalleutnant a.D. Kurt Alphons STARK, 1858-1934 Commander of Truppenübungsplatz Königsbrück and Inspekteur der Kriegsgefangenenlager. What a surprise! I certainly did not expect an id to it. So much appreciated Daniel! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saschaw Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 Has this group been restored within the past twelve months? I would love to see the absolutely glorious result! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lew Posted August 4, 2022 Author Share Posted August 4, 2022 On 01/08/2022 at 22:01, saschaw said: Has this group been restored within the past twelve months? I would love to see the absolutely glorious result! Not really, I've been waiting for a decent pair of Leopold and Frederick orders in order to start the project... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saschaw Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 My fingers are crossed you'll find decent pieces soon... but no hurry I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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