alan_g Posted May 3, 2013 Posted May 3, 2013 Hi Spolei, I think it is the Max Joseph Orden. I looked through my 1929 rangliste, and could only find 4-5 bearers of this award. But could not match up the NSDAP 10 year award nor the Austrian Anschluss medal to any of the likely recipients. He could have re-enlisted or been drafted later on... Best Regards Alan.
Schießplatzmeister Posted May 6, 2013 Posted May 6, 2013 Hello Alan: Congratulations regarding this very nice field ribbon bar. The recipient was most likely a MVM/TKM recipient (gold or silver) in WWI. He was also most likely a MVK II with swords recipient. There is nothing to indicate that he was an Officer, or may have received a field grade promotion. The odds are therefore against him having been a MMJO (MJ3) recipient. Best regards . Hi Spolei, I think it is the Max Joseph Orden. I looked through my 1929 rangliste, and could only find 4-5 bearers of this award. But could not match up the NSDAP 10 year award nor the Austrian Anschluss medal to any of the likely recipients. He could have re-enlisted or been drafted later on... Best Regards Alan.
Ulsterman Posted May 6, 2013 Posted May 6, 2013 Wow. That bar is REALLY interesting. A Bav Bravery medal without a BMVK2x is really unusual.....makes me think Prussian or imperial service somehow. Isn't there a Bav. bravery medal book?
Schießplatzmeister Posted May 6, 2013 Posted May 6, 2013 Hello Ulsterman: Sorry, to clarify, I meant "BMVK2x" when I wrote "MVKII with swords". But, I forgot to include the crown! So, it was really a Bavarian Military Merit Cross 2nd Class with Swords and Crown most likely. So, we are talking about the same thing. Thinking about Bavarian items all of the time, I often forget about the other States! Yes, there is the "Bayerns Goldenes Ehrenbuch" which has the citation information for the recipients listed. If there was a name to go with the field ribbon bar, then the citation information could be found there. Unfortunately, this WWI combination (Bavarian Military Merit Medal/Bravery Medal, Bavarian Military Merit Cross 2nd Class with Swords and Crown, and Prussian Iron Cross 2nd Class) was not that unique, so finding out which soldier owned this field ribbon bar would be difficult without any supporting documents/history. Best regards Wow. That bar is REALLY interesting. A Bav Bravery medal without a BMVK2x is really unusual.....makes me think Prussian or imperial service somehow. Isn't there a Bav. bravery medal book?
spolei Posted May 6, 2013 Posted May 6, 2013 Hello, I think it is impossible to find the owner of the bravery-medal bar. The "Bayerns goldenes Ehrenbuch" includes all the names oft the winners of the Bravery-medal, the MMJO and the Militär-Sanitäts-Ehrenzeichen, about aproximately 4000 Names. In this book are the descriptions of the individual heroics of the winners, but nolisting to their another decorations. On the ancestry-database, you will only find the decorations till end of WW1. I don't know a database for the decorations in WWII and the Partei-decorations. Regards Andreas
alan_g Posted May 9, 2013 Posted May 9, 2013 Shame that the owner has potentially been lost to history.
Ulsterman Posted May 9, 2013 Posted May 9, 2013 The 40 year LS medal would indicate Reichsheer service/ Beamter so he would be in the rank lists in the 1920s and 1930s. The medal ribbon at the end is a Luitpold, so that would indicate prior war Bavarian army service . That narrows the field considerably.
christerd Posted May 16, 2013 Posted May 16, 2013 (edited) Hi Alan , the bar I fell in love with is post 100 A super ribbonbar and rare combination !! EK II - KVK II -BMV0 IV ? - Austria KVK - Sachsen - HK- Eagle Order - ?? - Hungary Com Medal- ? Finland White Rose Order ? - Finland Liberty Cross 2nd cl - Finland Civil Guard medal Looks like a Bavarian from Gebirgs Art regt who was in Finland 1918 , maybe he is traceable , I will check my sources and come back. Finnish Liberty Crosses 2nd class 1918 isn´t the most common award belive me ..... Christer Edited May 16, 2013 by christerd
JBeltram Posted May 19, 2013 Posted May 19, 2013 Hello, Great bars and here is my example. Regards, Jody
spolei Posted May 22, 2013 Posted May 22, 2013 Hello, Great bars and here is my example. Regards, Jody Hello Jody, a very nice bar of an bavarian NCO. The manufacturer of the MVK was Lauer (Nürnberg) Regards Andreas
hipnos Posted July 24, 2013 Posted July 24, 2013 (edited) Just Bought in London...!!!. with a Hammerle MVK 2, NCO Bar ??? Regards Miguel Edited July 24, 2013 by hipnos
Chris Boonzaier Posted July 24, 2013 Author Posted July 24, 2013 Just Bought in London...!!!. with a Hammerle MVK 2, NCO Bar ??? Regards Miguel Superb, and not spoiled with a Hindie Cross!!
hipnos Posted July 24, 2013 Posted July 24, 2013 Superb, and not spoiled with a Hindie Cross!! What´s that???, This man have not see service at the WWI...or he´s retired before ....??? Thanks Chris Miguel
Chris Boonzaier Posted July 24, 2013 Author Posted July 24, 2013 What´s that???, This man have not see service at the WWI...or he´s retired before ....??? Thanks Chris Miguel Hi, no, he served in WW1, but the bar stops in 1918 and does not have any postwar awards... which I always find nice :-)
saschaw Posted July 24, 2013 Posted July 24, 2013 a little fun of Bavaria Ah, yours now? Nice! Used to be mine a while ago.
Guest Rick Research Posted July 24, 2013 Posted July 24, 2013 ...with a very limited number of potential original wearers to look up....
hipnos Posted July 25, 2013 Posted July 25, 2013 Hi, no, he served in WW1, but the bar stops in 1918 and does not have any postwar awards... which I always find nice :-) Thanks ! Miguel
hipnos Posted July 25, 2013 Posted July 25, 2013 Please how you can difference lauer from hemmerle seeing the crossed swords?... Thanks Miguel
spolei Posted July 28, 2013 Posted July 28, 2013 (edited) Please how you can difference lauer from hemmerle seeing the crossed swords?... Thanks Miguel Hello Miguel, the MVK at your bar is a late Leser-production. It has a spheric eyelet at the agraffe. Look to my little listing for the producers of the mvk, http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/57227-bayerische-militrverdienstkreuz-321-klasse/ http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/43620-what-do-you-know-about-bavarian-mvks/ the owner of the bar was a high rank NCO. He was already 1905 member of the bavarian army, so he got the Jubilee-medal. The service cross is for 15 years and longer. regards Andreas Edited July 28, 2013 by spolei
ixhs Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 Here another one: GenArzt Dr. Otto Krone Stettin
Chris Boonzaier Posted October 12, 2013 Author Posted October 12, 2013 One of mine Whats the weihnachten one??
P.F. Posted October 12, 2013 Posted October 12, 2013 Whats the weihnachten one?? Hi Chris That's the Bavarian Golden Wedding Anniversary Medal (King Ludwig III and Queen Maria Theresa). Kind regards Pierce
dante Posted October 12, 2013 Posted October 12, 2013 Whats the weihnachten one??Yes originally a coin but some made them into medals
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