Prussia Database with photos of officers showing their knight cross with X of Hohenzollern

[Mattyboy]

Oberstleutnant Conrad Hoffmann, formerly in the military cabinet 

[David M]

What kind of collar does is that. Love it

[Mattyboy]

A veteran wearing the HOH3x in front of his EK2. Also wearing the Krieger-Ehrenzeichen! 

[Dave Danner]

Generalmajor Hans Horn.

[Deutschritter]

On 13/09/2021 at 02:30, Mattyboy said:

Kurt von Obernitz (born 1878) from https://www.geni.com/photo/view/6000000111128294821?album_type=photos_of_me&photo_id=6000000111241766843 

 

 

What a great picture! Do you have any information on his career? Did he maybe serve in the Ulanen-regiment Nr. 9 (1914) and had received the Rettungsmedaille and the SA3b? Thanks! ... Do you happen to know if Generalleutnant Justin von Obernitz was his younger brother?

 

Edited November 15, 2022 by Deutschritter

[Dave Danner]

Yes, Justin was his brother.

 

Kurt was transferred from Husaren-Regiment Nr. 4 to Ulanen-Regiment Nr. 9 on 1.10.1913. During World War I, he was a Bataillons-Kommandeur in Reserve-Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 221. After the war he was in the 6. Reiter-Regiment and the 14. Reiter-Regiment.

[Deutschritter]

1 hour ago, Dave Danner said:

Yes, Justin was his brother.

 

Kurt was transferred from Husaren-Regiment Nr. 4 to Ulanen-Regiment Nr. 9 on 1.10.1913. During World War I, he was a Bataillons-Kommandeur in Reserve-Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 221. After the war he was in the 6. Reiter-Regiment and the 14. Reiter-Regiment.

Thank you, Dave! I saw him in the Rangliste 1926 as Major, in the Rangliste 1931 he couldn't be found, surely he retired as Oberstleutnant (?) ... In the picture above Kurt is Oberst (d. R.?) of the Wehrmacht, but I am not sure, if he took part in WWII. Presumably he went to the Kadettenkorps like his brother. It looks like he was not always by the Kavallerie, but started with the Grenadier-Regiment „König Friedrich III.“ (2. Schlesisches) Nr. 11 ... I hope, I got it right? Joining maybe March/April 1897?

Edited November 16, 2022 by Deutschritter

[GreyC]

On 02/11/2022 at 13:17, David M said:

What kind of collar does is that. Love it

Militärkabinett.

GreyC

[Dave Danner]

3 hours ago, Deutschritter said:

Thank you, Dave! I saw him in the Rangliste 1926 as Major, in the Rangliste 1931 he couldn't be found, surely he retired as Oberstleutnant (?) ... In the picture above Kurt is Oberst (d. R.?) of the Wehrmacht, but I am not sure, if he took part in WWII. Presumably he went to the Kadettenkorps like his brother. It looks like he was not always by the Kavallerie, but started with the Grenadier-Regiment „König Friedrich III.“ (2. Schlesisches) Nr. 11 ... I hope, I got it right? Joining maybe March/April 1897?

Kurt von Obernitz was an E-Offizier. He was an Oberst (E) and Kommandeur WBK Eberswalde in the 12.10.1937 Stellenbesetzung, but is not in the 10.11.1938 Stellenbesetzung, so he was probably retired on age grounds (he turned 60 in 1938). Judging by the KVK ribbon, he was recalled in WW2, probably as an Oberst z.V.
 

The only oddity in the photo is that his Feldspange is missing the ÖM3K.

[Deutschritter]

Thank you, Dave! I don't think he had the ÖM3K? Here the Rangliste 1926 (as Major):

 

 

But his brother, Rittmeister Justin von Obernitz, did:

 

Edited November 16, 2022 by Deutschritter

[Dave Danner]

It's not in his Rangliste entry, but he is in the list of Prussian ÖM3K recipients, along with his brothers Justin amd Gottfried and a cousin, Wilhelm, from GGR 4.

[GreyC]

Hi,

I was able to read the 2nd Reg. Chronik of IR19. I read until March 1915.

He wasn´t mentioned during the description of the activities, not even him being wounded, although this was common practise when officers were involved. HOWEVER: He is mentioned in the 1st list of personell of 6th August 1914 in Görlitz. He is listed as VzFw OA in 8th coy.

So he was drafted as former Einjähriger who was not yet elected Leutnant der Reserve, but served as Vizefeldwebel and officer´s candidate. He seems to havbe stayed with 8th company until wounded sometime in late Dec. or January 1915. As he is listed as Ltn. d. R. in the loss list he must have been promoted to Leutnant between 6th of August 1914 and 25th Feb. 1915, the day his wounded in action status was published in the loss list.

GreyC

Edited November 16, 2022 by GreyC

[Deutschritter]

Thank you Dave and GreyC!!!

[GreyC]

Pleasure!

There is a  multi-volume publication about Knightscross holders of WW2. Maybe there is more data on him concerning his career in WW1?

GreyC

Edited November 16, 2022 by GreyC

[Dave Danner]

I posted this on AHF, but in case anyone here did not see it there, here is Generalmajor Heinz Furbach wearing a very minimalist ribbon bar with just his EK2Sp and HOH3X:

 

[Dave Danner]

Generalmajor Wilhelm Heider with a nice buttonhole HOH3X. You can also see his MMV1 and just barely make out his MStMV1.

 

[Mattyboy]

An officer with some Russian awards.... 

[GreyC]

Seems to have been empoyed at Grenzschutz in the East after the war. I can see the Baltenkreuz and the Awaloff-Kreuz. Nice photo. Inbetween the Awaloff and the IC seems to be the Mecklenburger Militärverdienstkreuz 1st class. The wound badge was earned in WW1 but seems a postwar issue.

GreyC

[Dave Danner]

Generalmajor Wilhelm von Henning:

 

[Dave Danner]

Generalmajor Paul Herrmann (1892-1974)

 

 

 

Edited December 20, 2022 by Dave Danner

[Dave Danner]

General der Infanterie Albrecht Schubert

 

 

[Dave Danner]

General der Artillerie Johann Sinnhuber

 

 

[Dave Danner]

Just another ribbon bar example - Generalmajor Walther Hoßfeld. Two things of note, though.

 

First is another example of period mistakes in wear. The ÖM3K is treated as a foreign decoration and placed last after the Schutzwallehrenzeichen, when by then-current regulations it should have been treated as a Landesorden and placed with the other German state awards. And the HOH3X, as a Landesorden, should come after the Ostmedaille.

 

Second is the presence of the exceedingly rare Silberne Spange to the Großherzoglich Hessisches Allgemeines Ehrenzeichen "Für Tapferkeit".

 

[Dave Danner]

The later Generalleutnant Rudolf Schulze:

 

[chuck]

On 21/12/2022 at 22:52, Dave Danner said:

Just another ribbon bar example - Generalmajor Walther Hoßfeld. Two things of note, though.

 

First is another example of period mistakes in wear. The ÖM3K is treated as a foreign decoration and placed last after the Schutzwallehrenzeichen, when by then-current regulations it should have been treated as a Landesorden and placed with the other German state awards. And the HOH3X, as a Landesorden, should come after the Ostmedaille.

 

Second is the presence of the exceedingly rare Silberne Spange to the Großherzoglich Hessisches Allgemeines Ehrenzeichen "Für Tapferkeit".

 

very nice, picture I've never seen the Hessen Clasp in wear, or at all. Neal O'Connor stated that only 29 were awarded within the Infantry Regiment Prince Carl.

 

Regards, 

Chuck