dedehansen Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 am 17.8.18 gefallen Regards Andreas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arb Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 I read k.k. Major Outl als Gast mit den Offiz. der Brig(ade). Stab 16.08.18 Brig St. (Offz) bei ?? 16.08.18 Oberst Gottberg am 17.8.18 gefallen that colonel was Lorenz von Gottberg (05.01.1862-17.08.1918) Here are his wartime commands as far as I can determine them 17.08.18 in franz. Flandern gef. 22.06.18-17.08.18 Kom. d. 96. Res. Inf. Brig. 13.01.17-22.06.18 ?? 21.05.15-13.01.17 Kom. d. Inf. R. 98 01.10.14-05.04.15 Kom. d. Inf. R. 55 04.05.12-01.10.14 Kom. d. III./Inf. R. 55 (Detmold) His promotions: Oberst 18-10-17 Oberstlt. 24-12-14 Major 17-09-09 Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinZ Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Thank you very much! Then this would be Oberst Gottberg. Funny thing is that there's still number 55 on his shoulder boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Hello! I couldn´t find an Outl. In the austrian ranklist from 1908 are four Ontl (his name sounds like an abbreviation...) Three captains (14.Inf.Rgt., 2.Festungs-Art.Rgt., 42.Inf.Rgt.) and one 1st Lt. in 59.Inf.Rgt. One or more of them probably could have been Major in the war Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aubagne98 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 I read - "Major ... als Gast mit den Offz des Brig Stab" - "Oberst (not Oberstleutnant) Gottberg am (not zum)" " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 (edited) Hello! Of course, he promoted to Oberst in 1917. So he fell one day after the photo was taken?????? The 96.Res.Brig. was under command of 48.Res.Div. (Res.Rgt. 221, 222, 223) 3.7.18-20.8.1918: Battle between Arras and Albert. Throughout August and September the division stood southwest of Gavrelle (north-east of Arras). Erwin, could you please show the entire photo? I´d like to see the austrian Major. Thanks! Edited September 30, 2017 by The Prussian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinZ Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 (edited) 14 hours ago, The Prussian said: Erwin, could you please show the entire photo? I´d like to see the austrian Major. Thanks! Not the entire photo, but Ill post the bit what is important. I have actually 2 photo's of the same officer group but in complete different setting. Both will be 'published' some time though. The left guy has '22' on his boards. The Oberst in the middle as said before has '55' on his boards. The right guy most likely has a 2 digit number starting with a '5'. So yes. If the captions are correct, he fell the day after the photo's were taken. Thanks so far, already more information that I could hoped for. Edited September 30, 2017 by ErwinZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Hello! Are you sure with 22? T ist´s a three-digit number according to the regiments in that division (221, 222, 223) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Danner Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 RIR 221 and RIR 222 were Großherzoglich hessische Regiments, which would fit with the Kriegerehrenzeichen in Eisen which he is wearing. It looks like "221" on the shoulder boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinZ Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Yes sorry. It is '221'. The one is a bit blurry. Any idea who the Major is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arb Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 In the 1914 Austrian Army list there were three active officers names Ontl. Major August Ontl, Batl. Kom. in IR 14 date of rank as Major 01.05.1912 Hptm. Friedrich Ontl in IR 59 date of rank as Hptm. 01.05.1903 Hptm. Joseph Ontl in IR 59 date of rank as Hptm. 01.05.1912 I think that the first two are your best candidates, as Friedrich certainly would have been promoted Major by 1918. Since I am not that familiar with the Austrian officers of 1914/18, I'll leave it to those who are to perhaps determine if any of these is the man in the photograph. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Danner Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 August was promoted to Oberstleutnant on 1.3.15 and Oberst on 26.6.17. According to the 1916 k.u.k. Rangliste, Friedrich was promoted to Major on 1.8.14. He is not listed in the 1918 Rangliste. He may have been a casualty, but only about 10% of the k.u.k. Verlustlisten have been transcribed online. Josef (4.8.1875-10.4.1943) was promoted to Major on 1.1.18, so he seems to be the likely candidate. He was an Oberst (1.6.24) in the Bundesheer and retired as a Titular-Generalmajor on 23.4.28 (is "Tit." the Austrian equivalent to "Char."?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinZ Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 9 hours ago, Dave Danner said: Josef (4.8.1875-10.4.1943) was promoted to Major on 1.1.18, so he seems to be the likely candidate. He was an Oberst (1.6.24) in the Bundesheer and retired as a Titular-Generalmajor on 23.4.28 (is "Tit." the Austrian equivalent to "Char."?). Yes that's the guy we are looking for. Just did a search on him and this match came up from http://www.rainerregiment.at/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=106&Itemid=118 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 (edited) That´s him, right! But I wonder, what he did at the western front? The ranklist of 1918 shows him in IR59: http://www.rainerregiment.at/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=290&Itemid=208 And here he is listed in may 1918 (choose Offiziersliste "N I", not N II O!) http://www.rainerregiment.at/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=204&Itemid=133 I don´t know what the "w" left of the date means. Commanded to the Western Front??????? Probably he just made a visit (privatly or as an observer). In that period no austrian units were in that area. At that time, his unit was under command of VI.Corps in Italy Edited October 3, 2017 by The Prussian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinZ Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 I'm kinda new to WW1 research so I have no idea what an Austrian is doing there. But maybe this deserves it's own topic, apart from the translation bit. So the right soldier could be an Austrian officer from IR59 accompanying the Major? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted October 3, 2017 Author Share Posted October 3, 2017 Hi Guys, any guess what sickness my guy had? Thanks, Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 (edited) Erwin: There is only one austrain on that photo. Chris: I read "Hauptverbandsplatz" (right it´s called Hauptverbandplatz - without an s) = main dressing station Edited October 3, 2017 by The Prussian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted October 3, 2017 Author Share Posted October 3, 2017 9 minutes ago, The Prussian said: Erwin: There is only one austrain on that photo. Chris: I read "Hauptverbandsplatz" (right it´s called Hauptverbandplatz - without an s) = main dressing station Thanks, he seems to have had a mystery illness.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted November 17, 2017 Author Share Posted November 17, 2017 Hi, A friend is doing a project and has a letter with the following Pencil remark,,, Besten Dank XXXX Gruß XXXXXXXXXXX Bitte um Rucksendung... Can anyone fill in the XXXXXs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattyboy Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Hi all, Can anyone identify this signature? It should be easy but I just can't read it for some reason.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soderbaum Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Hi Mattyboy It is Eberstein. Gunnar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattyboy Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 (edited) Thank you! I have one more, from FEA 7 Edited November 29, 2017 by Mattyboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyC Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 (edited) delete Edited November 29, 2017 by GreyC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soderbaum Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Hi Mattyboy I am not certain regarding post 272 but it looks "Ludwig" for me. Gunnar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyC Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Hi, I´d second that. GreyC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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