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the lid and pushers do not fit at all to a jug of the Bavarian infantry from this time. The coat of arms on the pusher is a rather washed-out Bavarian state coat of arms, on which, however, the royal crown is missing. Also the pictures look to me like the pictures, which I know from - quite well made - repro jugs from the 70s and 80s. Even if Ludwig II. today has a "fairytale-like" meaning, one would have attached in this time only a portrait of the current ruler as a ground picture. I therefore find it strange that the jug from 1899 shows a picture of Ludwig II. A portrait of Prince Regent Luitpold would actually belong there. The mentally ill Otto I would probably not have been depicted. And the Prince Regent was already quite admired and transfigured at that time. Chris should try to find out whether the name and the regiment are painted on or printed on. If they were painted on, the piece could possibly be real, but it would certainly have had a new lid at some point.  A jug of the Infantry Body Regiment would also express the pride of having served in that particular regiment through a special illustration and not through a standard illustration that would fit any infantry regiment. But you can only say that with ultimate consistency once you have held the good piece in your hand. 180 € are a bit too expensive for that, such a repro jug is usually traded between 50 and 100 € today. The page "Reservistenkrugsammler.de" is good, because the texts and pictures are written by Wolfgang Gult, who is known to me as THE expert and reservist jug collector from the Gesellschaft für Heereskunde

Did you ask Wolfgang Gult?

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25 minutes ago, The Prussian said:

A friend of mine wrote:



 

 The page "Reservistenkrugsammler.de" is good, because the texts and pictures are written by Wolfgang Gult, who is known to me as THE expert and reservist jug collector from the Gesellschaft für Heereskunde

Did you ask Wolfgang Gult?

Hi,

I just had a long conversation with Wolfgang Gult ;-) ... here is what I found out....

he said absolutely typical of a Krug around 1900 and earlier. The Ludwig II pics were almost a tradition, he was the "rock star" of his era and is a popular image up until today. After his death he still appeared everywhere as he was well loved, and on Krugs long after his death. The sites who mention the LII pics on fakes do not mean they were not very comman back then, but rather they are also very often used now, (IMHO an unfortunate formulation).

The lid is fine, pusher included, the boring "pointy" lids are also typical of the pre 1900 Krugs... they had by then started with more decorative ones and later you basically only find the nicer lids, but this early it was normal to have a pointy, this being the classic with minor variations over the years.

Many Krug collectors pass these early ones by, but apparently there are collectors who concentrate on them as there was more hand work involved back then, the later Krugs having more print with less painting than the earlier ones. These earlier ones have all the specifics (Regt, Name etc) all painted on.

The earlier Krugs did in fact have a standard motif that was then adapted by hand by the painter, so the same Krug can be found for the Leib Regt and any other Infantry Regiment... the later Krugs (beginning 20th Century) began to add specific things for different Regiments /Preprinted carracks, Shoulder Boards etc...).

So all is fine, this is a boring late 19th century one, most literature and collectors ignore them and concentrate on the "next Generation" 20th century ones...

And I got an invite to visit and see his Private museum.

I will use it to drink a beer tonight and retire it to its shelf ;-)

 

 

 

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That sounds great! Again congrats to the Krug!

So it will be clear, that it´s an original one!

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1 minute ago, The Prussian said:

That sounds great! Again congrats to the Krug!

So it will be clear, that it´s an original one!

Indeed... I am rearranging the collecting room, but will take a pic of my budding krug collection soon :-)

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I wait for the photo! Your collection must be phantastic!

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Hi,

I read Heinrich Schwenold. A name you find in Bavaria once in a while. No guesswork necessary.

GreyC

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7 minutes ago, GreyC said:

Hi,

I read Heinrich Schwenold. A name you find in Bavaria once in a while. No guesswork necessary.

GreyC

Ahhhh... Thanks, for some reason the "W" threw me off.

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