Oldenburg Awards

[Komtur]

House and Merit Order of Peter Friedrich Ludwig Knight Cross 1st class with swords:

[saschaw]

Finally some Oldenburg enamels in this fine thread - thanks graham, and thanks Komtur! I never (yet) had any knight's cross with swords of this order... but here's an unknown civilian's two place medal bar with the knight's cross 2nd class with crown and an additional "OK2r" that I sold recently home to Oldenburg:

[Komtur]

Another double Oldenburg group:

[graham]

Beautiful pieces Komtur and saschaw.

My House and Merit Order of Peter Friedrich Ludwig Knights Cross 2nd class with crown and swords:

[91-old-inf-reg]

A miniatur vor dem feinde spange for a feldspange and the paper envelope of the Friedrich August kreuz II klasse

[VtwinVince]

Here is another Schnalle with a second class.

[Komtur]

Prof. Walter Bruck

[91-old-inf-reg]

Oldenburg dienstauszeichnung gendarmerie medaille fur 9 jahre

[ccj]

On 02/01/2021 at 02:41, Komtur said:

Prof. Walter Bruck

Nice photos, who’s the senior officer

[Komtur]

11 hours ago, ccj said:

Nice photos, who’s the senior officer

The granduke Friedrich August with his wife having tea with their dentist Prof. Bruck and his wife.

[VtwinVince]

Komtur, Bruck appears to be wearing the Sachsen KVK with an EK2, which some say is against regulations. Very interesting photo.

[ccj]

Wonderful 

[Wild Card]

Gentlemen,

From Oldenburg comes one of the more uniquely designed Imperial German decorations - the 1907 Red Cross medal. This one, being on a bow ribbon would be one of sixteen awarded to women.

[BlackcowboyBS]

Holy cow, that thing is a real beauty! never saw one before.

Congratulations on this one 

[redeagleorder]

Beautiful example of a rare award Wild Card. 

I would be very interested in discovering where the figure of 16 awarded to women comes from? As I recall, the award figures for this decoration are a subject of some debate, ranging from double digits to the low hundreds. Has a medal roll been discovered and/or published?

The reason for my interest is that I own a medal bar - shown here - with this Oldenburg decoration alongside the Schwarzburg Anna-Luisen Verdienstzeichen, the latter being bestowed solely upon women. I have always held out a faint hope that such a unique combination of rare awards may one day prove identifiable to the original recipient. 

Kind regards

PS: Incidentally, my example is also hallmarked on the back with what looks to be a 950, although I do not have it in hand to check. Examples without hallmarks are also seen - apparently production varied between bronze gilt and silver gilt.

Edited January 30, 2021 by redeagleorder

[1812 Overture]

I only have one worthless rubbish common Oldenburg medal

[91-old-inf-reg]

1870/71 Oldenburg erinnerungs medaille

Edited February 2, 2021 by 91-old-inf-reg

[91-old-inf-reg]

I think only 21 of these were ever awarded 

[Wild Card]

BlackcowboyBS and redeagleorder thank you for your kind comments.

 

With regard to your question redeagleorder - In his book “Der Hausorden und die Tragbaren Ehrenzeichen des Grossherzogtums Oldenburg 1813 - 1918”, Friedhelm Beyreiss states that 50 pieces were delivered by Knauer. Of these, eighteen were awarded; and of those, two were awarded to men, the remaining  sixteen, of course,  to women.

 

I would not be terribly concerned about how your medals are mounted. Inasmuch as this bar would have been assembled from 1934 onwards, we know how by that time the old Imperial guidelines were not strictly followed. Hopefully you will get access to the Schwarzburg Anna-Luisen Verdienstzeichen rolls to solve this mystery. Please keep us posted!

 

Regards,

 

Wild Card

[redeagleorder]

Thank you Wild Card for the source of the information - much appreciated! In 2013 Dave Danner had confirmed to me on this forum that a list of recipients of the Anna-Luisen Verdienstzeichen for each of the two Schwarzburg states exists in the archives. Maybe someday after this COVID matter is over...

Regards

[Wild Card]

Good luck on your search and please do let us know what you find.

[JohanH]

Here is one of my lastest arrivals. 

 

A miniature chain with a Oldenburg house order 1st class awarded to a Swedish chamberlain (kammarherre).

 

 

[chuck]

On 01/01/2021 at 13:18, 91-old-inf-reg said:

A miniatur vor dem feinde spange for a feldspange and the paper envelope of the Friedrich August kreuz II klasse

The Miniature is a very nice find. I recently came across an advertisement for the New! Spangen for the Friedrich August Cross from what i believe must have been a sales company.

 

Regards,

Chuck

[91-old-inf-reg]

1 minute ago, chuck said:

The Miniature is a very nice find. I recently came across an advertisement for the New! Spangen for the Friedrich August Cross from what i believe must have been a sales company.

 

Regards,

Chuck

This very well could be the case. However, if my memory serves me, that the “Vor Dem Feinde” spange was not so much awarded but was available for purchase by the soldier who was awarded the FAK2. 
 

For instance, in Oblt. Gert Pflugradt’s book, just about every officer who was awarded the FAK2 is listed as being awarded the “OF2 Sp.”, even to officers who died before the spange was introduced. In my opinion I think it was printed that way because they where eligible for it, but may or may not have purchased it. 
 

For example, here is the entry for the Lt. later General Wilhelm Conze:

 

 

and his medal bar:

 

 

best regards,

Dan

[Dave Danner]

2 hours ago, 91-old-inf-reg said:

This very well could be the case. However, if my memory serves me, that the “Vor Dem Feinde” spange was not so much awarded but was available for purchase by the soldier who was awarded the FAK2.

 

Awards for merit on the battlefront from 20 September 1918 (the date the clasp was authorized) on would be with the clasp. If one already had the cross for merit on the battlefront, your memory serves you right: it was up to the individual to obtain the clasp himself. From the Großherzogliche Militärkanzlei:

 

"Eine Nachlieferung der Spange für Verdienste in der Kampffront findet nicht statt, es bleibt dem einzelnen überlassen, sich diese selbst zu beschaffen."