Small Officer's Group

[VtwinVince]

I've been reorganising after moving earlier this year, and thought this group might be of interest. It belonged to Major Jordan of the Landwehr-Fussartillerie and came out of the woodwork years ago from the USA. Since Jordan died in 1945 in Thuringia, I believe these items were souvenired by US forces prior to the area being taken over by the Soviets.

[CRBeery]

Very nice! An all cross bar.

[Claudius]

What is that medal on the watch fob's ribbon?

Can we also get a photo of the reverses?

[Eric Stahlhut]

excellent group with interesting pieces. any markings on the sword pin?

[Chris Boonzaier]

Wow,,, that is indeed a cool group!

How did you identify it?

[VtwinVince]

OK, I'll get some more photos. The fob is Ukrainian, so must have been a souvenir. The small sword was a student's presentation piece and is engraved to Jordan. Chris, along with the sword the combination of awards is unique.

[Simius Rex]

That's a pretty impressive grouping you've got there.  Did Major Jordan continue serving in the 100,000-man Heer after the war?

The group consists of some fairly pricey components, but by far the RAREST component is the device used to represent the Hohenzollern 3X on the ribbon bar.  This was actually the device used to represent the Crown Order with swords.  Notice that the crown is planted right on top of where the swords intersect.  The tailor must have run-out of HOH-crossed sword devices (where the crown was positioned directly above and not on top of the intersection of the swords) and used this one instead.  Simi. 

Edited July 2, 2020 by Simius Rex
spelling error

[VtwinVince]

I had noticed that, an unusual feature. Apparently Jordan did not continue with the military. Here's a couple more photos. The HOH is marked for Sy & Wagner.

[ixhs]

Very nice pieces. Send it to me in Germany. 😁

[Simius Rex]

Here is a picture of your Crown Order device from an online research article.  Like I said, it is extremely scarce.  If you were to display the ribbon bar without the corresponding medal bar, knowledgeable collectors would think it represents a Crown Order with swords.  A few years back, I was bidding on a ribbon bar with this very same device.  The bidding went nuts and the bar sold for an obscene amount of money.  Simi.   

Edited July 2, 2020 by Simius Rex

[chuck]

Dear Simius Rex, 

Can you kindly provide a link to the article I wouldn't mind reading the article and further  expanding my knowledge.

Thank You,

Chuck 

[Simius Rex]

15 minutes ago, chuck said:

Dear Simius Rex, 

Can you kindly provide a link to the article I wouldn't mind reading the article and further  expanding my knowledge.

Thank You,

Chuck 

PM sent. Simi.

Edited July 2, 2020 by Simius Rex

[Deruelle]

Hi

Very nice group. Have you got the first name of the Major Jordan. He received the SE3X  from Schwarzburg Rudolstadt on 9 december 1914 as Hauptmann.

It is interesting to see that Jordan has never worn the Hindenburg cross on his medal bar, even if he died in 1945.

Simius has right about the Hohenzollern device.

Christophe

[VtwinVince]

His full name was Gerhard Martin Jordan of Landwehr-Feldartillerie 1.

[GdC26]

11 hours ago, Simius Rex said:

Here is a picture of your Crown Order device from an online research article.  Like I said, it is extremely scarce.  If you were to display the ribbon bar without the corresponding medal bar, knowledgeable collectors would think it represents a Crown Order with swords.  A few years back, I was bidding on a ribbon bar with this very same device.  The bidding went nuts and the bar sold for an obscene amount of money.  Simi.   

Interesting, thanks for pointing this out!

 

[BalkanCollector]

What an amazing group!

[David M]

11 hours ago, Simius Rex said:

PM sent. Simi.

I would like to read it 2

[GMU]

Wonderful group. Thanks for sharing

[Simius Rex]

On 03/07/2020 at 02:13, GdC26 said:

Interesting, thanks for pointing this out!

My pleassure.  That's what we're all here for... to learn things from each other.  I've picked-up quite a few things from reading your posts, as well !! Simi.

Edited July 4, 2020 by Simius Rex

[GdC26]

18 hours ago, Simius Rex said:

My pleassure.  That's what we're all here for... to learn things from each other.  I've picked-up quite a few things from reading your posts, as well !! Simi.

I'm pleased to hear that I've been able to return the pleasure, thanks Simi.

[Eric Stahlhut]

i wonder if our major jordan had a dueling scar to complement his schlager sword memento...

....also, i wish i knew more about that 25-year veterans cross. i have several examples for different service levels (25/50), in different sizes, and in silver or gold finish, with red or green on the central disc. all made by "r. conrad, weimar"

[VtwinVince]

Eric, this one is also by that maker.

[Deruelle]

Hi

to illustrate the Crown Order with X device, here is a small ribbon bar I used to have in the past.

Christophe