VtwinVince Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 I've been reorganising after moving earlier this year, and thought this group might be of interest. It belonged to Major Jordan of the Landwehr-Fussartillerie and came out of the woodwork years ago from the USA. Since Jordan died in 1945 in Thuringia, I believe these items were souvenired by US forces prior to the area being taken over by the Soviets. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRBeery Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Very nice! An all cross bar. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudius Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 What is that medal on the watch fob's ribbon? Can we also get a photo of the reverses? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Stahlhut Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 excellent group with interesting pieces. any markings on the sword pin? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Wow,,, that is indeed a cool group! How did you identify it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VtwinVince Posted July 2, 2020 Author Share Posted July 2, 2020 OK, I'll get some more photos. The fob is Ukrainian, so must have been a souvenir. The small sword was a student's presentation piece and is engraved to Jordan. Chris, along with the sword the combination of awards is unique. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simius Rex Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 (edited) That's a pretty impressive grouping you've got there. Did Major Jordan continue serving in the 100,000-man Heer after the war? The group consists of some fairly pricey components, but by far the RAREST component is the device used to represent the Hohenzollern 3X on the ribbon bar. This was actually the device used to represent the Crown Order with swords. Notice that the crown is planted right on top of where the swords intersect. The tailor must have run-out of HOH-crossed sword devices (where the crown was positioned directly above and not on top of the intersection of the swords) and used this one instead. Simi. Edited July 2, 2020 by Simius Rex spelling error 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VtwinVince Posted July 2, 2020 Author Share Posted July 2, 2020 I had noticed that, an unusual feature. Apparently Jordan did not continue with the military. Here's a couple more photos. The HOH is marked for Sy & Wagner. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixhs Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Very nice pieces. Send it to me in Germany. 😁 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simius Rex Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 (edited) Here is a picture of your Crown Order device from an online research article. Like I said, it is extremely scarce. If you were to display the ribbon bar without the corresponding medal bar, knowledgeable collectors would think it represents a Crown Order with swords. A few years back, I was bidding on a ribbon bar with this very same device. The bidding went nuts and the bar sold for an obscene amount of money. Simi. Edited July 2, 2020 by Simius Rex 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Dear Simius Rex, Can you kindly provide a link to the article I wouldn't mind reading the article and further expanding my knowledge. Thank You, Chuck 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simius Rex Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, chuck said: Dear Simius Rex, Can you kindly provide a link to the article I wouldn't mind reading the article and further expanding my knowledge. Thank You, Chuck PM sent. Simi. Edited July 2, 2020 by Simius Rex 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deruelle Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Hi Very nice group. Have you got the first name of the Major Jordan. He received the SE3X from Schwarzburg Rudolstadt on 9 december 1914 as Hauptmann. It is interesting to see that Jordan has never worn the Hindenburg cross on his medal bar, even if he died in 1945. Simius has right about the Hohenzollern device. Christophe 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VtwinVince Posted July 3, 2020 Author Share Posted July 3, 2020 His full name was Gerhard Martin Jordan of Landwehr-Feldartillerie 1. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GdC26 Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 11 hours ago, Simius Rex said: Here is a picture of your Crown Order device from an online research article. Like I said, it is extremely scarce. If you were to display the ribbon bar without the corresponding medal bar, knowledgeable collectors would think it represents a Crown Order with swords. A few years back, I was bidding on a ribbon bar with this very same device. The bidding went nuts and the bar sold for an obscene amount of money. Simi. Interesting, thanks for pointing this out! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BalkanCollector Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 What an amazing group! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David M Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 11 hours ago, Simius Rex said: PM sent. Simi. I would like to read it 2 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMU Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 Wonderful group. Thanks for sharing 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simius Rex Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 (edited) On 03/07/2020 at 02:13, GdC26 said: Interesting, thanks for pointing this out! My pleassure. That's what we're all here for... to learn things from each other. I've picked-up quite a few things from reading your posts, as well !! Simi. Edited July 4, 2020 by Simius Rex 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GdC26 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 18 hours ago, Simius Rex said: My pleassure. That's what we're all here for... to learn things from each other. I've picked-up quite a few things from reading your posts, as well !! Simi. I'm pleased to hear that I've been able to return the pleasure, thanks Simi. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Stahlhut Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 i wonder if our major jordan had a dueling scar to complement his schlager sword memento... ....also, i wish i knew more about that 25-year veterans cross. i have several examples for different service levels (25/50), in different sizes, and in silver or gold finish, with red or green on the central disc. all made by "r. conrad, weimar" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VtwinVince Posted July 6, 2020 Author Share Posted July 6, 2020 Eric, this one is also by that maker. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deruelle Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 Hi to illustrate the Crown Order with X device, here is a small ribbon bar I used to have in the past. Christophe 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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