Odulf Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 Not to distinguish, looks more like a Gothic letter or so... Unfortunately to unsharp for any clue
redeagleorder Posted January 3, 2014 Posted January 3, 2014 A quick question gentlemen. For the Princely Hohenzollern House Order, would all classes have a gold device on the ribbon bar? The reason I'm asking is that I've seen ribbon bars representing the order (not the medal) with both gold and silver devices. Thanks.
Deruelle Posted January 3, 2014 Posted January 3, 2014 New entry : Hauptmann d. R. Heinrich Lüken received the HHO3X on 16 July 1918. In Roth the date is 15 octobre 1918. Christophe
Deruelle Posted January 3, 2014 Posted January 3, 2014 To Redeagleorder, I don't remember seeing silver Swords on officer's ribbon bar representing the HE. It is possible for you to show us the photo please. Thanks. It is probably for the silver medal with X. But without seeing photo it's difficult to say. Christophe
redeagleorder Posted January 3, 2014 Posted January 3, 2014 Here is a link since I don't own the ribbon bar itself: http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/4001-what-decoration-is-this-prussian-hohenzollern/?hl=%2Bprincely+%2Bhohenzollern+%2Bribbon+%2Bbar
coburg22 Posted May 17, 2014 Posted May 17, 2014 Okay I just found a copy of Willi Geile's book on Recipients of the Knight's Cross of the House Order of Hohenzollern during the First World War. It lists the recipients alphabetically by year of their award 1915-1918. It also gives the date and rank at time of award. What it doesn't list is their first name which is rather frustrating. If anyone needs information from this book, please let me know. I am also looking for a book by the same author who lists the 1st Class Recipients of the Red Eagle Order during World War I.
arb Posted May 17, 2014 Posted May 17, 2014 The lack of first names is the hallmark of contemporary Prussian sources and later works based on them. This makes researching the Prussians maddeningly slow and challenging. If the book you are looking for is that compilation of awards listed in the Militär Wochenblatt (MWB) during the war, you will be faced with the same problem- no first names!!! In those cases of a common name, it's next to impossible to know from this list which family member was given an award. Realize ahead of time that it will be rather frustrating looking for a particular individual. That said, using other sources such as the MWB themselves can be more informative, as the often, but not always, give the type (i.e. reserve regiment, Brigade, division, etc) of unit under the officer's command. This can be helpful if you know that man's rank and unit and general date pf the award. As you work longer in this area, you will discover that there are sources of names, but they are hard to find and expensive. While there is an amazing amount of information available on the web today, it's not all there. If you have a specific question, post it on this forum. Several members should be able to assist. Andy
coburg22 Posted May 17, 2014 Posted May 17, 2014 Hi Andy, thank you for your reply and pointing out some research specifics. James
lew Posted May 28, 2014 Posted May 28, 2014 (Oberarbeitsarzt) Dr. med. Paul Stehr received HHO3X on 7.7.1918.
Daniel Krause Posted May 29, 2014 Author Posted May 29, 2014 Wow! Nice pic! Thanks a lot!!! greetings Daniel
webr55 Posted May 31, 2014 Posted May 31, 2014 Any news on when the HHOX volume will come out? Regards Chris
Daniel Krause Posted June 2, 2014 Author Posted June 2, 2014 When I am ready :-) Seriously - no idea. There are still too many missing ... Lots of greetings Daniel
Bernhard H.Holst Posted November 6, 2014 Posted November 6, 2014 Hello readers: Here is the award document for the Hohenzoller belonging to Major Maximilian von Zastrow, commander of the 3.Baden Feldartillerieregiment Number 50. Maj.v. Zastrow was assigned pre-war to the Prussian Guard Artillery. The 1914 Ranklist lists him as Hauptmann in the 3rd Gardefeldartillerie. The Ehrenrang Liste of 1926 shows him as retired Lt.Col. Bernhard H. Holst
OTTER76 Posted November 7, 2014 Posted November 7, 2014 Okay I just found a copy of Willi Geile's book on Recipients of the Knight's Cross of the House Order of Hohenzollern during the First World War. It lists the recipients alphabetically by year of their award 1915-1918. It also gives the date and rank at time of award. What it doesn't list is their first name which is rather frustrating. If anyone needs information from this book, please let me know. I am also looking for a book by the same author who lists the 1st Class Recipients of the Red Eagle Order during World War I. Hi, could you please check if there are a Falkenhagen and a Hahn as recipients? Thanks! Alex
Daniel Krause Posted November 25, 2014 Author Posted November 25, 2014 Hi, no Falkenhagen, 3 Hahns. Erich, Eugen and Johannes Lots of greetings Daniel
OTTER76 Posted November 26, 2014 Posted November 26, 2014 Hi, no Falkenhagen, 3 Hahns. Erich, Eugen and Johannes Lots of greetings DanielGreat you found something for me Daniel. Indeed any of those Hahns can be my officer. Maybe a Major. Unfortunately shoulder boards are not quite visible. Thanks a lot.
OTTER76 Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 (edited) Erich, Eugen and Johannes Erich was the first WWI Ace to be awarded the SH Saxon order. He was KIA flying in 1917. Therefore not my guy. Eugen has a 50% chance, but found only this http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Personenregister/H/HahnEugen.htm Generalmajor Johannes Hahn (1889-1970) the other side of this coin, was researched as well http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/related/ribbons/ww2.htm Edited November 27, 2014 by OTTER76
OTTER76 Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 Strangely there is an Otto Hahn regarded as an HHOX awardee listed here as well http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Hahn
OTTER76 Posted November 28, 2014 Posted November 28, 2014 Just found a picture of Johannes here at GMIC and.... The winner is.... EUGEN! Thanks to the forum members. If any further pictures of WWII or award rolls are available, please pm me!
OTTER76 Posted November 28, 2014 Posted November 28, 2014 Just found a picture of Johannes here at GMIC and.... The winner is.... EUGEN! Thanks to the forum members. If any further pictures of WWII or award rolls are available, please pm me! Silly of me. Died in 1938.
Daniel Krause Posted December 1, 2014 Author Posted December 1, 2014 Hi Chris, thanks a lot!!!! A new one for my list. That late awards never made it in the newspapers :-) Lots of greetings Daniel
webr55 Posted December 10, 2014 Posted December 10, 2014 A (yet) unidentified Luftwaffe Lt-Colonel Wow - that was close. I almost thought you found my (still unidentified) Luftwaffe officer: Great to see that picture!
webr55 Posted December 11, 2014 Posted December 11, 2014 (edited) I wonder if that's really a Hohenzollern in the photo. The ribbon under the crown device doesn't look black. A (yet) unidentified Luftwaffe Lt-Colonel Edited December 11, 2014 by webr55
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