Mikko13 Posted June 27, 2013 Posted June 27, 2013 Another great medal bar of a German serving in Finland. The extraordinary thing of the medal bar might be that it is unique in a special way: Combination of Finnish medals with the Pour le Merite for NCOs (The Golden Military Merit Cross - Militär-Verdienstkreuz für Unteroffiziere und Mannschaften). Also the EK1 is existing. Kriegsstammrolle, not to forget The name is known...a guy who got very old. Have fun. Mikko
turtle Posted July 1, 2013 Posted July 1, 2013 Woaaahhh! Even with colonial service!! Would you maybe show more of this great group??
christerd Posted July 1, 2013 Author Posted July 1, 2013 He should be easy to id , but I dont have the book about Golden Merit Crosses , could not be more than one who served in Colonial and Finland !! Christer
christerd Posted July 2, 2013 Author Posted July 2, 2013 Just saw the Kriegstammrolle ..... Pleaaaaaase Mikko , who is it ? I have spent some hours in the Swedish War Archive searching for Swedish soldiers with Finnish awards , puh I Thank god they are typed (most) and not in scary handwritten old German like Rick has to deal with Right know I going through 1st class medals with Red Cross 1918 ( only 20 awarded to Swedes) would I like a document ? Hmm , let me think ...... YES ! Christer
Paul C Posted July 2, 2013 Posted July 2, 2013 (edited) I have never been able to pin this bar to one person. Best suspects are KL: (T) Georg Fett PCO4, EK1, HH 6.4.04 16.7.15 a.D.22.11.19 Born 14.1.86 1931 Essen Staff? (A) Gustav Wehr PCO4, EK1, HH 6.4.04 10.8.15 a.D. 22.11.19 Born 27.8.861931 Essen Ship Hindenburg Edited July 2, 2013 by Paul C
misiu Posted July 2, 2013 Posted July 2, 2013 hi guys i am just in finland. as far as i remember the name is warnat or warwat. more when i am back from suomi
dedehansen Posted July 2, 2013 Posted July 2, 2013 hi guys i am just in finland. as far as i remember the name is warnat or warwat. more when i am back from suomi Wilhelm Warnat, Offizier - Stellvertreter, Reserve - Infanterie - Regiment Nr. 255 awarded 26.03.1918, current number 80 from the recipients award list Regards Andreas
M Hunter Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 I have never been able to pin this bar to one person. Best suspects are KL: (T) Georg Fett PCO4, EK1, HH 6.4.04 16.7.15 a.D.22.11.19 Born 14.1.86 1931 Essen Staff? (A) Gustav Wehr PCO4, EK1, HH 6.4.04 10.8.15 a.D. 22.11.19 Born 27.8.861931 Essen Ship Hindenburg Paul I really like this ribbon bar. I assume the reverse is done in black/navy blue to signify Marine? Best wishes Matt
VtwinVince Posted July 13, 2013 Posted July 13, 2013 Wow, that MVK group is fantastic. I have a couple of nice Schnallen with Finnish awards, but they are in storage. Once I have finished my move, I will post scans of them.
Mikko13 Posted July 13, 2013 Posted July 13, 2013 Hello, just came from holiday and saw the questions concerning the medal bar with the MVK. Here are some more pics and yes...the name is Wilhelm Warnat. Have fun. Mikko
dond Posted July 15, 2013 Posted July 15, 2013 I was going thru some stuff and came across this one that I forgot I had.
Deruelle Posted July 15, 2013 Posted July 15, 2013 Very impressive Don. I like it very much. I don't remember you could wear both crosses from the same order. I learn everyday thanks Christophe
Mikko13 Posted July 15, 2013 Posted July 15, 2013 Always when I visit Helsinki and I am standing in front of the White Cathedral (created after the plans of the German architekt Engel) I get goose bumps when I remind myself of these old picture of German troops passing the White Cathedral when celebrating the liberty and freedom of Finland and the overcome of the red disease. Cheers Mikko
Daniel Krause Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 keep them coming!!! :-) I am fairly sure I showed this group of ribbon bars before: One 1930ies tab back style - the baltic cross ribbon missing and one 1957 model ribbon bar. I wonder how this guy managed to get nothing in WW2 but was still in a kind of uniformed service in the late 50ies... Lots of greetings Daniel
Cartaphilus Posted September 18, 2014 Posted September 18, 2014 Dear friends do you have any idea about what Finnish awards can be seen on Felix Steiner's ribbon bar?
Thierry Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 Bonjour, 1939 Spange zum 1914 EK-II, Ostmedaille, Ehrenkreuz des Weltkrieges 1914-1918 mit Schwertern, Medaille zur Erinnerung an den 13 März 1938, Medaille zur Erinnerung an den 1 Oktober 1938 mit Spange «Prager Burg», Slowakia Order ??? He won : Finnische Orden des Freiheitskreuz 1. kl mit Schwertern (16 juin 1942), Finnische Orden des Freiheitskreuz 1. kl mit Stern u. Eichenlaub (6 juillet 1943). The finnish ribbon is 3rd or 4th Class on this order, Unknow ribbon, The last ribbon is unknow, but is commander class. Add Werner Mummert served in Sächsische Karabinier Rgt Nr 2 in WWI. Finnische Orden des Freiheitskreuz 4. kl mit Schwertern (17 août 1918), Finnische Medaille zur Erinnerung an den Freiheitskrieg 1918. ??? Crdl Thierry
Cartaphilus Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 Yer Thierry, the sixth ribbon seems to be the War Victory Cross Order from Slowakia, but I've never seen any reference about this order awarded to Steiner. Best regards.
Great Dane Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 Could the 8th ribbon be the Finnish "Skyddskårens förtjänstkors"? It was awarded to foreigners... /Michael
Cartaphilus Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 Could be. Do you have information about this decoration?
Great Dane Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 Not really... the book "Finlands Utmärkelsetecken" by Wrede doesn't say why it was awarded - he just describes what it looks like. Here is a picture: http://www.medalj.nu/ribbon_info.asp?build=&showgroups=M-M/100&visitor=%7B30E706AB-2FC9-4537-909C-D2412C7EDEC9%7D&listmode=0&medal=%7B1E3DD89D-33D2-48CF-B07D-E47244DC49BB%7D /Michael
Thierry Posted September 20, 2014 Posted September 20, 2014 (edited) Bonjour, The last ribbon maybe Hungarian order of Merit, Commander class. Thierry Edited September 20, 2014 by Thierry
misiu Posted September 23, 2014 Posted September 23, 2014 Hello collector-friends, is someone of you familiar with a guy named Erich Beschke? He received the Finnish Liberty cross 2nd class in 1918. At that time he was a Hauptmann. Later on he also received the Finnish Medal of Liberation. In which unit did he serve? What was his CV? Why did he receive the 2nd class of the Liberty cross? Was he a commander of a unit in the Finnish Liberation war? Your help appreciated. Detlef
christerd Posted September 24, 2014 Author Posted September 24, 2014 Hello collector-friends, is someone of you familiar with a guy named Erich Beschke? He received the Finnish Liberty cross 2nd class in 1918. At that time he was a Hauptmann. Later on he also received the Finnish Medal of Liberation. In which unit did he serve? What was his CV? Why did he receive the 2nd class of the Liberty cross? Was he a commander of a unit in the Finnish Liberation war? Your help appreciated. Detlef Erich Beschke born in Magdeburg Aug 3rd 1878 , first in service Oct 1st 1904 He was with 2 Bayr Feld Art Rgt 1914- 1915 , later in 1918 Bayr Gebirgs Kanon Batt 07 EK II , BMVO IV x , BMVO IV Mkr x 1918 Luitpold Medal, Austria MVK mKd June 23rd 1918, Finnish Liberty Cross 2nd class May 28 1918 If I read right he was OberLt dR in may 1918 wich explains why he got a second class instead of a more normal third class. Christer
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