Paris Posted February 15, 2020 Posted February 15, 2020 Hier mal eine Feldschnalle mit einem seltenen RAO3 Krone und Schleife 1
Claudio Posted February 15, 2020 Posted February 15, 2020 Wow! Beautiful... you can see that the crown on the RAO is correct in shape/design, material and patina. Is the ring which hold the bow (Bandschleife) on the RAO in Gold? Usually they were on the large medal bars (Grossordenschnallen) or when these awards were issued/bestowed (before WWI/1916). Nice also the unusual over-sided crown on the last ribbon; are the narrow stripes on the sides green or light blue?
dedehansen Posted February 15, 2020 Posted February 15, 2020 Hi, I think it is the ribbon from the Phillipsorden. Kind regards Andreas
Paris Posted February 16, 2020 Posted February 16, 2020 Ja. Hessischer Philippsorden Ritter1 mit Krone
Daniel Krause Posted February 16, 2020 Posted February 16, 2020 Reichsmilitärgerichtsrat August Mülberger, I would guess. Very nice bar!! Best, Daniel
Glenn J Posted February 16, 2020 Posted February 16, 2020 Hi Daniel, I very much agree. He presumably received the South-West Africa Medal in steel for services in support of the campaign whilst serving in the Reichsmilitärgericht. Regards Glenn
redeagleorder Posted March 1, 2020 Posted March 1, 2020 Not rare awards by any stretch of the imagination, but love the condition of this. The Koenig Ludwig Kreuz in particular is jet-black in contrast to the later awards that have a greenish tinge.
VtwinVince Posted March 1, 2020 Posted March 1, 2020 Really nice, but isn't that a Bulgarian ribbon on the Bavarian medal at the end?
redeagleorder Posted March 1, 2020 Posted March 1, 2020 Indeed Vince - although very similar to the ribbon meant for the "Kriegserinnerungszeichen des Bayerischen Landesvereins vom Roten Kreuz", the silver stripes on this examples are narrower and more reminiscent of the Bulgarian ribbon. It would not surprise me if Bulgarian ribbon was more readily available during the early Weimar period than the award's intended ribbon. The medal itself is tied down with black ribbon in the exact same manner as the other two. Another medal bar to recently come my way; the Wilhelmskreuz is the version with the blank reverse rather than the type with the 'kriegsverdienst' inscription. Can anyone highlight the exact reasons as to why a blank-reverse version was issued?
Beau Newman Posted March 2, 2020 Posted March 2, 2020 As I understand it, the Wilhelm's cross was an award for merit and not a bravery award. Even the awards with swords are considered non-combat awards to military personnel. The non swords awards with the "KRIEGS VERDIENST" reverse were awarded for home front service directly related to the war effort while the blank reverse style was awarded for public welfare service.
Utgardloki Posted March 7, 2020 Posted March 7, 2020 Gorgeous bars - i also like the different backsides
David M Posted March 7, 2020 Posted March 7, 2020 Just a quick question: in the last bar, whats in 2nd place and should it not be in another place?
Dave Danner Posted March 7, 2020 Posted March 7, 2020 I assume you are referring to the cross after the Iron Cross? It is the Prussian Verdienstkreuz für Kriegshilfe, which basically replaced the Iron Cross on the white/black ribbon for merit on the homefront. As a Prussian war decoration, it ranked ahead of peacetime decorations, even orders of knighthood, so it is in its proper place.
Paul R Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 These are some beautiful bars you’ve shared. Here are a few additions
redeagleorder Posted May 9, 2020 Posted May 9, 2020 (edited) An award I have been after for a considerable period of the time; Sachsen Meiningen's Kreuz für Verdienste in Kriege on the non-combatant ribbon. As per Rick Lundstrom and Daniel Krause's rolls, there were between 650-680 such awards. This completes my Sachsen-Meiningen trilogy of non-combatant awards, taking its place alongside the Medaille für Verdienste in Kriege on non-combatant ribbon (shown previously in this thread) and the Kreuz für Verdienst von Frauen und Jungfrauen on ladies bow. Another recent acquisition - a three-place medal bar with campaign awards in steel for the war of 1870 and, more notably, the Second Schleswig War. Still looking for the non-combatant campaign awards for 1848 and 1866. Finally, a nice little bar also with the non-combatant campaign medal in steel for 1870, but on the combatant ribbon. (ironically for stay-at-homes, never understood the logic behind that one!). Edited May 9, 2020 by redeagleorder 1
Paul R Posted May 11, 2020 Posted May 11, 2020 What is that last medal on my ribbon bar posted above? I still cannot figure it out.
Claudius Posted May 11, 2020 Posted May 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, Paul R said: What is that last medal on my ribbon bar posted above? I still cannot figure it out. Long service. It's an unusual, but highly desirable variant to find on medal bar.
Paul R Posted May 11, 2020 Posted May 11, 2020 34 minutes ago, Claudius said: Long service. It's an unusual, but highly desirable variant to find on medal bar. I bet that the medal bar was awesome!!
Wild Card Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 Gentlemen, With regard to the noncombat medal on the combat ribbon, here is another example (actually a double dipper) which I believe I have posted some years ago. Regards, Wild Card 2
laurentius Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 I don't think an ID is possible, only the RAO, KDM and LOE would show up in the ranklists. The Order of the Oakcrown is a pre-1890 award (Dutch rather than Luxemburgian) and the RAO is pre-1885. This gives it a bit of a window which might help, you never know
David M Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 There is a book on the oak crown, so it could be narrowed down quite a bit
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