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Yes, that was the practice on the field, however unless the items come directly from the family with a very strong "Provenance ( better with Photo of the awarded person wearing the converted EK2)' then the door is wide open for speculations.
Because the "converted' EK2 to RK demands bigger price it is quite temping for certain people to do so now and claim that it is a period conversion. I even would not trust "reputable" dealers because even they can be tricked or worse knowingly selling such item as "period conversion"
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Thank you for the nice pictures
The other Orders are amazing Especially the Order for Civil merit 1st Class for ladies Set with original box and picture of the awarded person
Regarding the SS Cyril and Methodius Cross I agree with you that the Star on the photo with King Boris looks the same, however we have been discussing for a while a strange Set with blue enamel inside the both central medallions -similar to the one in Tallinn Museum Such sets appeared in the market 2-3 years ago One of them was sold in Holland The Set had the same Sash as the one in Tallinn About the same time was reported by one of our members
Now a similar Set appeared for sale as "Collectors copy" The good news is the seller provides very detailed pictures and we can compare it with the well known originals
All those Sets have also one thing in common the back of the flames on the crosses are not enameled
The discussed Sejalvo Cross and supposedly existing Stars are also considered as original, however more modern version. They were ordered by the current Monarch King Simeon in around 1970s. At that time he was living in exile in Spain
The official maker of this Order The Austrian firm Rothe made them during the both King Ferdinand and King Boris period up till the end of WW2
There were fiw Sets that were made after the war up to the 1960s for the collectors market using the original dies and supposedly left over materials After the firm was closed there is a big question what has happened with the dies for many Orders not only Bulgarian ones
Supposedly those post war sets by Rothe had marks that they deffer from the old oriignal to reflect the time they were made, however nobody has had a detailed research of those facts
Our tusk is to find out whether those crosses and sets were made more recently using the original dies or made by this purpose new dies i.e words whether those Sets are copies with less little value for the collectors and the market. Once this is identified it is up to the collector to decide whether he/she can have them in their collection and how much they are willing to spend
We here on those forums try to establish the truth using our knowledge and the existing facts
That was very interesting, he was a man with great taste. What I noticed and think is interesting in picture 6 he wears the Bavarian Hubertus star in precedence bevore the Prussian Black Eagle star, although Lippe was more or less surrounded by Prussia.
EDIT: Inspecting it again I saw it is a RED EAGLE star - so the precedence makes sence